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My opionion is to take the bear tag and the rifle. If you do have an elk tag leave it behind. Shouldn't be any doubts of your intentions if checked. Also, maybe keep in mind that your rifle scope is not a good choice to glass any elk he is looking at.
I must have missed something?? Your buddy drew a muzzy bull tag and someone is telling you to leave the elk tag at home and take the rifle and bear tag? I must be reading it wrong because if my buddy drew an any bull tag for muzzy that's what we would be hunting. I wouldn't even bother with the bear hunting during his hunt and concentrate on the big prize, the elk. You can always take your gun and bear tag with you later on his gut pile after the work is done of course.
Quote from: trophyhunt on July 25, 2012, 12:22:11 PMI must have missed something?? Your buddy drew a muzzy bull tag and someone is telling you to leave the elk tag at home and take the rifle and bear tag? I must be reading it wrong because if my buddy drew an any bull tag for muzzy that's what we would be hunting. I wouldn't even bother with the bear hunting during his hunt and concentrate on the big prize, the elk. You can always take your gun and bear tag with you later on his gut pile after the work is done of course. Yes we will be doing all elk hunting. But u never know that big chocolate bear might just walk out and wanna get shot
I think hunting over a bait pile for bear is still baiting. Even though it is natural, from a downed animal, the regs would still consider it bait. Best to shoot yotes off it.
RCW 77.15.245(d) As used in this subsection, "bait" means a substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for the purpose of attracting black bears to an area where one or more persons hunt or intend to hunt them.
As the guy who made the party hunting comment ( and will I'm sure catch heat for it) that is only how I read the post. I am saying nothing personally....only an intrepetation of the comment.Hmmmm...........since you would remove the guts from the animal, place them there, and return I would think it would be a ticket waiting to happen.
Quote from: CP on July 25, 2012, 01:02:21 PMRCW 77.15.245(d) As used in this subsection, "bait" means a substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for the purpose of attracting black bears to an area where one or more persons hunt or intend to hunt them.used for the purpose of attracting black bearsThat is why I stated my post the way I did. I asked a warden several years ago and was told a legal gut pile or even a dead cow that died naturally is OK. But you cannot drag a cow out to the woods and shoot bear.But interpretations of the law can vary or change, so I would suggest asking WDFW.
I think that your buddy may be tempted to use your rifle if the right bull presents itself, the little natches rifle hunt is open at the same time, and unless you are planning on putting a large sign on the side of your truck that states you are hunting with a muzzy who would know, I'd be willing to bet several muzzy bulls have been shot with a rifle during that hunt, I say don't tempt him
No, it isn't really amazing.
So I got a buddy that drew a peaches ridge muzzy bull tag and we went up scouting we found some good country lots of elk and lots of bear sighn. Since I won't be able to hunt bear very much this year for bear i was wondering if it is leagle for me to pack my rifle for bear while he is muzzy hunting elk?
In that manner it is not at all. I read it as they would both be carrying a muzzy with only one muzzy elk tag. You carrying a modern rifle with a bear tag is not in any way party hunting.
I would check with WDFW first, but I think you can shoot a bear off a legally killed gut pile as long as you did not place it for the purpose of hunting bear. I also think you can legally hunt bear with your rifle while your partner hunts for elk with his bow. The same person cannot pack a rifle and bow in the field at the same time to hunt archery elk and rifle bear at the same time.
The things people assume here on HW is amazing.
Quote from: bearpaw on July 25, 2012, 12:56:10 PMI would check with WDFW first, but I think you can shoot a bear off a legally killed gut pile as long as you did not place it for the purpose of hunting bear. I also think you can legally hunt bear with your rifle while your partner hunts for elk with his bow. The same person cannot pack a rifle and bow in the field at the same time to hunt archery elk and rifle bear at the same time.That is what I've been told by the game wardens I've talked to.
I think that the root of all of this goes back to the fact that party hunting happens all the time. It's not right or legal but it's happening each year. It's simply a reason for a warden to be skeptical of a situation. If you're carrying your rifle and he's got his muzzy then it should be no problem. Might you get questioned if you get stopped? Yeah maybe, but as long as you have done nothing wrong you should have nothing to worry about. We pay them to protect these resources that we pay ridiculous amounts of money to use. Nothing personal, but I would expect them to question you both and would be disapointed if they didn't.
Sounds way to logical for the state to agree!Like I mentioned...........I agree with being able to do it.