whats the rule?

[b0bbyg]

Yeah, I was kind of thinking the gut pile was a gray area but I was curious what others thought.  checking with WDFW is the best bet.

As to the party hunting comment, I agree if you have two guys carrying Muzzys you are cruising for a ticket. If the others are just glassing and calling to help with the hunt then no problems.

[CP]

RCW 77.15.245
(d) As used in this subsection, "bait" means a substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for the purpose of attracting black bears to an area where one or more persons hunt or intend to hunt them.

[bearpaw]

RCW 77.15.245
(d) As used in this subsection, "bait" means a substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for the purpose of attracting black bears to an area where one or more persons hunt or intend to hunt them.

used for the purpose of attracting black bears

That is why I stated my post the way I did. I asked a warden several years ago and was told a legal gut pile or even a dead cow that died naturally is OK. But you cannot drag a cow out to the woods and shoot bear.

But interpretations of the law can vary or change, so I would suggest asking WDFW.

[h20hunter]

As the guy who made the party hunting comment ( and will I'm sure catch heat for it) that is only how I read the post. I am saying nothing personally....only an intrepetation of the comment.

Hmmmm...........since you would remove the guts from the animal, place them there, and return I would think it would be a ticket waiting to happen.

[rtspring]

If you have a valid hunting license and TAG, you can be in the trees anytime the season is open. We often bear hunt after we have tagged our elk out. Long as you have a tag and license, your good to go. Thats a right that you paid for.  Do not get involved in party hunting. As for the gut pile, I am sure the state would waste more money trying to find you guilty of baiting.     If your gut tells you its wrong, chances are it is wrong...


RTSPRING

[h20hunter]

Yep....I agree with that 100%

[b0bbyg]

As the guy who made the party hunting comment ( and will I'm sure catch heat for it) that is only how I read the post. I am saying nothing personally....only an intrepetation of the comment.

Hmmmm...........since you would remove the guts from the animal, place them there, and return I would think it would be a ticket waiting to happen.

I don't think you should catch heat for the comment, it sounded the same to me, actually two different posts kind of read that way.  I am guessing it was not intended to sound that way but sometimes things look funny after they are posted.   
 

[Bob33]

RCW 77.15.245
(d) As used in this subsection, "bait" means a substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for the purpose of attracting black bears to an area where one or more persons hunt or intend to hunt them.

used for the purpose of attracting black bears

That is why I stated my post the way I did. I asked a warden several years ago and was told a legal gut pile or even a dead cow that died naturally is OK. But you cannot drag a cow out to the woods and shoot bear.

But interpretations of the law can vary or change, so I would suggest asking WDFW.

I believe it would depend on the hunter's intent.  If you shot an elk, were gutting it and a bear came in, you should not be cited.  If you are hunting the gut pile from a tree stand three days later, and you shot a bear off it you probably will be.

[Bigshooter]

My buddy has an elk tag, I have a bear tag and want to bear hunt while he is elk hunting.  How is that party hunting?

[h20hunter]

In that manner it is not at all. I read it as they would both be carrying a muzzy with only one muzzy elk tag. You carrying a modern rifle with a bear tag is not in any way party hunting.

[royalbull]

I think that your buddy may be tempted to use your rifle if the right bull presents itself, the little natches rifle hunt is open at the same time, and unless you are planning on putting a large sign on the side of your truck that states you are hunting with a muzzy who would know, I'd be willing to bet several muzzy bulls have been shot with a rifle during that hunt, I say don't tempt him

[link]

I think that your buddy may be tempted to use your rifle if the right bull presents itself, the little natches rifle hunt is open at the same time, and unless you are planning on putting a large sign on the side of your truck that states you are hunting with a muzzy who would know, I'd be willing to bet several muzzy bulls have been shot with a rifle during that hunt, I say don't tempt him

Ding, ding, ding. We finally get to the root of the question!   

[Miles]

The things people assume here on HW is amazing.

[h20hunter]

Nah....pretty common place really.

[link]

No, it isn't really amazing.