Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)

[KFhunter]

The ranch refused compensation, they were offered but declined.  They spell out the reason/s for declining compensation very well in some of the articles Bearpaw posted.  I don't think you read them or you wouldn't have made that ignorant statement.  I told you to go read some more and get back to us.
 
They want the freedom to protect their livestock without the threat of fines and imprisonment.  WDFW is holding a hammer over their heads while the wolves are chewing away their livelyhood. And you tell em to move if they can't take the heat.
 
ignorant
 
 
 

[Kola16]

The wolves are not a part of the element. They were INTRODUCED. Just because they were here a long time ago, that does not mean that they are a part of this place. They were gone for a reason.

[GameHunter1959]

I kind of wish they'd release more pictures.  The McIrvins have more class then that though, they are good people and are trying to do it the right way.  They are not liars or con artists nor are they going to milk the system.  They've stood up and said we will not take handouts to shut us up.  I had a lot of respect for them before this all happend and have even more now.  I may even go up and volunteer come round up time. God knows I'm ve chased a lot of cattle up in that country   
 
But maybe some pictures of chewed up bloody calves with their asses hanging inside out would placiate people like you.  The WDFW confirmed the attacks I don't really know what else you'd need.

This would be the same game department, which just about everyone in this forum has little to zero faith in. Show me a video. So now the forum beleives them because they want to think it was wolves that attacked. The forum members seem to drift in whatever direction helps boost their opinions. Not saying it was not wolves, because it sounds like it was. That is off my point in the first place.

[CedarPants]

Ok,  you don't like the forum.  Got it. 

Can you please answer my previous question?

[GameHunter1959]

Can you clarify GH  - if you were a rancher would you leave the land you love or would you shoot the entire pack?  The former isn't as cut and dry as just packing up and starting over somewhere else, and the latter is illegal.

Just looking for clarification

I would try and do it legally, but if I was getting nowhere. I would shoot the pack off and take my chances.

[Kola16]

Can you clarify GH  - if you were a rancher would you leave the land you love or would you shoot the entire pack?  The former isn't as cut and dry as just packing up and starting over somewhere else, and the latter is illegal.

Just looking for clarification

I would try and do it legally, but if I was getting nowhere. I would shoot the pack off and take my chances.

The problem with that is that the only gun that you have shot was on a video game. Maybe.

[silverdalesauer]

This is much more entertaining than the local news.
Just wish I had snacks!!

I agree. I'm sitting here reading this dialogue while chewing on a bowl of pistachios. More entertaining than reading the game regs.

[GameHunter1959]

I read your post. I didn't think I was committing "forum suicide" by pointing out that just selling a livelihood isn't a valid option. It's ridiculous, actually,

By your logic, since I am a teacher, if a kid were to come to school with a gun and shoot me, I couldn't complain because it comes with the territory? Or a police officer's wife couldn't complain if her husband was shot in the line of duty?

Those are not realistic examples. Please come back with something more relevant, and I am happy to have an intelligent debate with you.

[KFhunter]

"shoot the pack off"  lol
 
ya 

[silverdalesauer]

I read your post. I didn't think I was committing "forum suicide" by pointing out that just selling a livelihood isn't a valid option. It's ridiculous, actually,

By your logic, since I am a teacher, if a kid were to come to school with a gun and shoot me, I couldn't complain because it comes with the territory? Or a police officer's wife couldn't complain if her husband was shot in the line of duty?

Those are not realistic examples. Please come back with something more relevant, and I am happy to have an intelligent debate with you.

Ummmmmm........  Seriously? You're kidding right?   

[CedarPants]

Can you clarify GH  - if you were a rancher would you leave the land you love or would you shoot the entire pack?  The former isn't as cut and dry as just packing up and starting over somewhere else, and the latter is illegal.

Just looking for clarification

I would try and do it legally, but if I was getting nowhere. I would shoot the pack off and take my chances.

So you wouldn't move, and you'd wipe out the pack.   Got it.

Your message to other ranchers though is that they should just move. 

In your next conversation with WDFW (since you claim to have contacted them regarding the topics on this forum, right after claiming to not care about peoples opinions on this forum),feel free to make them aware of how you'd handle things per this conversation.

Not that they aren't already aware, considering not only do they monitor this forum but are have members on it.

I feel you are trying to make a misplaced point, or you are fishing.  Won't find many bites here

[KFhunter]

I think it's humanure come back to 
 
 
I think he needs banned again.

[GameHunter1959]

The ranch refused compensation, they were offered but declined.  They spell out the reason/s for declining compensation very well in some of the articles Bearpaw posted.  I don't think you read them or you wouldn't have made that ignorant statement.  I told you to go read some more and get back to us.
 
They want the freedom to protect their livestock without the threat of fines and imprisonment.  WDFW is holding a hammer over their heads while the wolves are chewing away their livelyhood. And you tell em to move if they can't take the heat.
 
ignorant

I have read all of Dales articles, and spent time with him going over the facts. I am know newbie to this topic. Go ahead and name call me ignorant. I could just as easily call you names, but I don't want to break forum rules and get banned. The sad thing is, I agree with the forum 110% regarding the ranchers and the management of wolves. The forum is upset because I am looking at the issue from both sides, versus posting meaninless posts, which do nothing for the forum.

[GameHunter1959]

I think it's humanure come back to 
 
 
I think he needs banned again.

That is not me, so you can stop with that. And you want me banned for what? because I agree with the forum, yet examine the issue from all sides. Yet you are the one name calling, which is aganist forum rules and can make you subject to being banned. If Dale wants to ban me for having an opinion then go ahead. All that at would do is make the site look bad and lose credibility. It is a chat room, which means everyone can speak their opinion. We don't all have to agree.

[CedarPants]

Looking at both sides is no problem.  Suggesting that other people should move in a situation where you admittedly would take matters into your own hands if it was you makes no sense.  I don't think anyone here is faulting you for offering a different perspective