Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)

[seth30]

The sad part about this whole story is all the government agency's were aware of these animals since the late 90's. But due to the close proximity to Canada they were never classified as a resident pack. These were thought of as a transient pack because the ranged back and forth across the line. Now it seems they are the largest trouble that we have and now they are an issue.
The border to these ranchers is in some places the width of a county road to nothing more than a barbwire fence.
My own belief is that the USFWS and the WDFG should be held personally and morally responsible for all the losses sustained by the cattle ranchers for lack of process. To make any amends to the sportsman of this state, I'd get a better return on Lotto ticket's.

Ya know, the agency's will blame each other, WTF ?, we didn't know anything about this.

I wonder when the elk tags and deer tags stop selling due to lack of game, will our wonderful state reps increase the price of the discover pass, or maybe they will come up with another great idea  

[Northway]

"Everyone should be eligible. Every gosh darn person in a problem area should be hunting these critters. There should be hired guns and trappers after a specific pack kills a targeted number of livestock. The farmers should have free range to kill as many as they can; their neighbors, too.

When they were extinguished back in the 50's, it'd taken decades of poison, trapping, shooting, anything we could do to get rid of them. It took decades. Now, without killing traps or poison, it'll be impossible to get rid of them, never mind get them to a manageable level. Everyone should be in on killing them once it's decided they should be killed." - Pianoman

If we're just talking about a specific pack that is depredating in a given area and that pack is slated for removal, what's the point of giving a permit out to everyone in the county? WDFW/WS agents are perfectly capable of taking out an entire wolf pack on their own. It's been done plenty of times in Idaho, Montana, or Wyoming. Either a wolf/wolves are already collared and the pack is easier to track, or they go in and collar a judas wolf to lead them back to the rest of the pack.

[CedarPants]

The sad part about this whole story is all the government agency's were aware of these animals since the late 90's. But due to the close proximity to Canada they were never classified as a resident pack. These were thought of as a transient pack because the ranged back and forth across the line. Now it seems they are the largest trouble that we have and now they are an issue.
The border to these ranchers is in some places the width of a county road to nothing more than a barbwire fence.
My own belief is that the USFWS and the WDFG should be held personally and morally responsible for all the losses sustained by the cattle ranchers for lack of process. To make any amends to the sportsman of this state, I'd get a better return on Lotto ticket's.

Ya know, the agency's will blame each other, WTF ?, we didn't know anything about this.

I wonder when the elk tags and deer tags stop selling due to lack of game, will our wonderful state reps increase the price of the discover pass, or maybe they will come up with another great idea

Cow and doe tags are almost nonexistent this year up there compared to what they've given out historically.

Keep in mind, I do think that is a good thing.  The deer and elk herds could use a boost up there.

I just never thought part of the equation would be to further cut into our already limited opportunity so another species could be offered free unlimited over the counter tags with a year round season.

[Ridgeratt]

The sad part about this whole story is all the government agency's were aware of these animals since the late 90's. But due to the close proximity to Canada they were never classified as a resident pack. These were thought of as a transient pack because the ranged back and forth across the line. Now it seems they are the largest trouble that we have and now they are an issue.
The border to these ranchers is in some places the width of a county road to nothing more than a barbwire fence.
My own belief is that the USFWS and the WDFG should be held personally and morally responsible for all the losses sustained by the cattle ranchers for lack of process. To make any amends to the sportsman of this state, I'd get a better return on Lotto ticket's.

Ya know, the agency's will blame each other, WTF ?, we didn't know anything about this.

I wonder when the elk tags and deer tags stop selling due to lack of game, will our wonderful state reps increase the price of the discover pass, or maybe they will come up with another great idea

Not to push this thread sideways if you review the rules they have already made drastic changes to allow for the wolves.
This used to be an any elk area due to the fact they didn't want to encourage the introduction of elk west of the Columbia river in the published trend reports from the WDFG.
The total harvest for all 3 weapons combined was always a small harvest the largest I saw was under 30 animals.
This fall they have given out 10 modern rifle anterless tags, also 10 Muzzle tags and 10 Master tags. The rest is any bull which is a low percentage run.
After the increase in Wolves the last years harvest was under 30 % less than the year before, wonder what caused that?

[Kola16]

Not to push this thread sideways if you review the rules they have already made drastic changes to allow for the wolves.
This used to be an any elk area due to the fact they didn't want to encourage the introduction of elk west of the Columbia river in the published trend reports from the WDFG.
The total harvest for all 3 weapons combined was always a small harvest the largest I saw was under 30 animals.
This fall they have given out 10 modern rifle anterless tags, also 10 Muzzle tags and 10 Master tags. The rest is any bull which is a low percentage run.
After the increase in Wolves the last years harvest was under 30 % less than the year before, wonder what caused that?

I have always hoped that the elk in the NE corner would eventually become plentiful. Stupid wolves 

[sebek556]

hello troll or should I say northway... move along nothing to see here 

[seth30]

hello troll or should I say northway... move along nothing to see here 

or Humanure

[Ridgeratt]

If by any chance they do open this area I will do what ever it takes to acquire a tag!! Over the last few years my path has crossed them on several occasions. It would be one of the last 2 on my bucket list.

[sebek556]

this on has a better way with words the humanure, so either he took a English class or its a different one. This one also has not really crossed the line from the post that I've read.. think they are just here to report back to the others what we are saying... 

[Elkaholic daWg]

"Everyone should be eligible. Every gosh darn person in a problem area should be hunting these critters. There should be hired guns and trappers after a specific pack kills a targeted number of livestock. The farmers should have free range to kill as many as they can; their neighbors, too.

When they were extinguished back in the 50's, it'd taken decades of poison, trapping, shooting, anything we could do to get rid of them. It took decades. Now, without killing traps or poison, it'll be impossible to get rid of them, never mind get them to a manageable level. Everyone should be in on killing them once it's decided they should be killed." - Pianoman

If we're just talking about a specific pack that is depredating in a given area and that pack is slated for removal, what's the point of giving a permit out to everyone in the county? WDFW/WS agents are perfectly capable of taking out an entire wolf pack on their own. It's been done plenty of times in Idaho, Montana, or Wyoming. Either a wolf/wolves are already collared and the pack is easier to track, or they go in and collar a judas wolf to lead them back to the rest of the pack.

GET OUT of seattle and see what reality REALLY IS

[seth30]

 

[seth30]

Ridgeratt that brought a tear to my eye, a tear of happiness

[sebek556]

  where did you hide my dream house at? 

[BOWHUNTER45]

Ok so here's the money shot!!!

Sorry my bad!!
[/quote   SHAME ON YOU ....You animal killer 

[RG]

Here we go again...