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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2012, 05:08:56 PM »
I find it hard to believe that the majority of the deer in a particular area would be mule deer/whitetail deer crosses. That just doesn't happen, anywhere. I'd say they're just mule deer and genetically they may be different than mule deer in other areas, but they're still mule deer.

I would tend to agree with you Bobcat, but what is throwing me off is the tail. It is as long as a Whitetail is with a black tip and they wave it goodbye when they run away.
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2012, 05:17:44 PM »
Inbreds ? Genetic changes from brother and sister in those hillbilly hills in Cheney.
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2012, 06:36:25 PM »
I'm far from a biologist, but I like to read their writings - I'd guess that 95% of what folks claim to be crosses aren't. I'd like to say it's higher, but I don't want to get too crazy. It's been studied and stated by many a biologist that it's just very rare - and again, due to the fertility problems it's even more unlikely to find a concentrated number of them.

As an example to the genetic disposition, think of all those areas with 2 pts... or for those that love to claim a cross b/c it's a 3pt.

Is it impossible.. no, I suppose not. But very unlikely.

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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2012, 06:37:57 PM »
Well, I saw a white van with WDFW lettering on the side driving some deer over from Western Washington a couple weeks. I know they're trying to reintroduce them. I should have taken a picture. :chuckle:
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2012, 08:35:19 PM »
Well, I saw a white van with WDFW lettering on the side driving some deer over from Western Washington a couple weeks. I know they're trying to reintroduce them. I should have taken a picture. :chuckle:

I know it sounds funny, but I have heard from several locals that there are Blacktail in the area. I am just trying to get some input here and get to the bottom of it.
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2012, 08:56:21 PM »
Maybe something in the area has genetically changed them.  Still mulies though.  The blacktail on many of the San Juan islands are significantly smaller making you think they could be something else.

Then you look at mulies in the Desert A area and they are huge.  Nutrition, food, etc may be the sole causes to these deviances.
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2012, 09:18:51 PM »
What kind of deer is legal when you plan to hunt?
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2012, 09:32:37 PM »
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2012, 09:34:19 PM »
Whitetail and Muleys with a 3 point minimum on on both.
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2012, 09:36:29 PM »
If both muleys and whitetails are legal, you've got nothing to worry about legally. You cannot possibly shoot a blacktail because they are defined as being west of the crest only.
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2012, 01:23:51 AM »
I have seen whiteys from Canada to the blues with black on there tails.. 100% whitetail

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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2012, 01:35:32 AM »
I have seen whiteys from Canada to the blues with black on there tails.. 100% whitetail



Same here. They are either whitetail or mule deer.......definintly not blacktails.  :twocents:
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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2012, 01:06:22 PM »
I have seen whiteys from Canada to the blues with black on there tails.. 100% whitetail

 :yeah:  I've got some trail camera pictures from this year in the 139 Unit that are whitetails that have really dark to black on the tips of thier tails.  I will try to remember to post up some pics. 

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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2012, 08:01:26 AM »
Here is a little whitetail buck and a whitetail doe both with a pretty dark tails.  And for comparison a muley doe. 

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Re: Blacktail in the Cheney Unit 130?
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2012, 08:05:57 AM »
I find it hard to believe that the majority of the deer in a particular area would be mule deer/whitetail deer crosses. That just doesn't happen, anywhere. I'd say they're just mule deer and genetically they may be different than mule deer in other areas, but they're still mule deer.

I would tend to agree with you Bobcat, but what is throwing me off is the tail. It is as long as a Whitetail is with a black tip and they wave it goodbye when they run away.

If there are crosses anywhere in that area, it would be on Fairchild AFB.   They are all locked up in a small area and I do believe there has been crossbreeding there.

 


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