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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #75 on: September 25, 2012, 07:49:36 PM »
there was a helo floating around this last weekend. Figured it was just scouting fires.

Glad to hear they were looking for more than fires...  :chuckle:
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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #76 on: September 25, 2012, 08:39:58 PM »
there was a helo floating around this last weekend. Figured it was just scouting fires.

There was also one flying low and slow over the north end of the POWR on Saturday afternoon. Looked civilian (white with logo I couldn't make out) so I didn't give it a second thought. That's a loooong ways from the target area though. I wonder how many birds are in the air just doing surveillance and monitoring?

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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #77 on: September 25, 2012, 11:30:57 PM »
No pictures?

No pictures, it didn't happen. 

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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #78 on: September 25, 2012, 11:42:36 PM »
No pictures?

No pictures, it didn't happen.
+1, ya I believe them. :rolleyes:
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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2012, 08:14:36 AM »
There was a helo working the fire right S of the border crossing at Laurier on Friday.  I never saw any others.

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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2012, 08:17:43 AM »
...........about 7 miles south of the Canadian Border ??? To bad they didn't say exactly where so other ranchers could start reporting their calf injuries and deaths !  :bash:

Aren't the ranchers able to keep track of this stuff on their own?
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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #81 on: September 26, 2012, 08:46:27 AM »
Wow...

I am actually pretty impressed with the way WDFW acted here.  I don't know if I can really recall a time when local government acted on facts and principle instead of fear from a bully lobby.

Good to go WDFW!

Do you think it would have cost too much for the state to write a set of regs, get them printed, and take care of all the other logistical stuff to make a "wedge wolf unit" and allow Washington hunters to pay to remove the wolves?  Seems like it would have made the state some money, but it may not have covered the cost of implementation.  I guess it might not have been feasible given the time frame they wanted to work in.

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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #82 on: September 26, 2012, 08:59:23 AM »
Yeah, the WDFW has gained back a little respect now that they have done the right thing in deciding to eliminate the pack.............and actually got 2 already.  But they will have to do a lot more to gain more than just a smidgen of respect.  The wolf plan was laughable and the commission never should have approved it.  The wolves should have been delisted where allowed by the Feds, to do anything else was stupid!
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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #83 on: September 26, 2012, 09:01:43 AM »
Showing my ignorance now...

Were Wolves native to this state long, long ago...

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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #84 on: September 26, 2012, 09:06:41 AM »
...........about 7 miles south of the Canadian Border ??? To bad they didn't say exactly where so other ranchers could start reporting their calf injuries and deaths !  :bash:

Aren't the ranchers able to keep track of this stuff on their own?

Who says they aren't?

They can't shoot the wolves themselves.  WDFW is the only ones who can do that, and they need a helicopter to do it, even with a GPS collar.

 

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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #85 on: September 26, 2012, 09:09:22 AM »
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Were Wolves native to this state long, long ago...


I believe a different flavor....They certainly acted differently

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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #86 on: September 26, 2012, 09:11:18 AM »
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Do you think it would have cost too much for the state to write a set of regs, get them printed, and take care of all the other logistical stuff to make a "wedge wolf unit" and allow Washington hunters to pay to remove the wolves?  Seems like it would have made the state some money, but it may not have covered the cost of implementation.  I guess it might not have been feasible given the time frame they wanted to work in.


Would have been an issue in the courts.  EASIER to flip to an emergency removal as written.   Look how long it took to get a successful season in montana and then in Idaho even after they had it in the regs.

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RE: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #87 on: September 26, 2012, 09:19:02 AM »
Showing my ignorance now...

Were Wolves native to this state long, long ago...

Yes

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RE: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #88 on: September 26, 2012, 09:20:54 AM »
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Do you think it would have cost too much for the state to write a set of regs, get them printed, and take care of all the other logistical stuff to make a "wedge wolf unit" and allow Washington hunters to pay to remove the wolves?  Seems like it would have made the state some money, but it may not have covered the cost of implementation.  I guess it might not have been feasible given the time frame they wanted to work in.


Would have been an issue in the courts.  EASIER to flip to an emergency removal as written.   Look how long it took to get a successful season in montana and then in Idaho even after they had it in the regs.

Exactly

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Re: WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down
« Reply #89 on: September 26, 2012, 09:29:52 AM »
There seems to be some confusion on wolf types and subspecies. 

Click this link, it goes to a pro-wolf site but they did a great job of labeling all the different types.  These are all Grey Wolf (Canis Lupus).
They range in size from a small coyote,  to over 220 lbs.

Pay special attention to Cascade Wolf and British Columbia wolf.


http://conservethewolves.webs.com/wolfspecies.htm
« Last Edit: September 26, 2012, 09:36:06 AM by KFhunter »

 


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