An instructor sure pissed me off today!

[JLS]

ok last post on this for me...i never once said i was entitled or my wife was to get what we want cuz we werent there on time, i like how people try to make me out as a spoiled little brat who throws a fit when i dont get what i want...i never said it wasnt his right to tell us no, his attitude towards us when he told us is what made me the most mad he came out there with a big ol *censored* eating grin and told us we cant come in....i dont know what its like to be like some of you on here like your just gods gift to the earth...for some reason i seriously doubt you are that amazing...but i could be wrong...even tho some of you post on here all the time about how much better you are than everyone else....good luck in life! maybe some day ill run in to you on the side of the road with a broken truck and ill just have to tell you with a big grin on my face! "well i guess you should brought the right tool to fix that! hope you learned your lesson!" while i leave you there!

I know I'm not amazing.  If I ran into you broken down, I'd still help you, even after how you've represented yourself through all of this.  Even as a Type A who's always in a hurry and despises being late.

[predatorpro]

Predatorpro I think you're crossing a fine line here ........nothing until now was IMHO said with feel of revenge

sorry i do not want "revenge" im not really sure what your implying? i do not want revenge on anyone...i was just kinda mad! thats it! i did not want to make it this big of a deal!

[mfswallace]

If you really didn't want it to be a big deal why post it on the internet as a rant and bash about someone doing there job, when by all accounts you were in the wrong, even though it was a pretty minor thing 

[Cap.Silver]

"good luck in life! maybe some day ill run in to you on the side of the road with a broken truck and ill just have to tell you with a big grin on my face! "well i guess you should brought the right tool to fix that! hope you learned your lesson!" while i leave you there!" does feel like you are angry with the OP = guys ,who do not agree with you .That was what I saw .I'm not judging you ...... and I don't know you .Please forgive me for not writing my opinion about this matter ,I'm not here for that and frankly nobody would care anyway . 
Stay cool 

[windygorge]

i was just kinda mad! thats it! i did not want to make it this big of a deal!
[/quote]

i do know for one thing.  on this forum, if you were completely tickled and happy that the instructor kicked you out of class, and then posted it on here.  everyone in their mother would have told you that you should have been mad and went off on him.  given you a ton of... and a whole lotta..
it doesn't matter what you do, the nazi's always come out. 

[csaaphill]

that would have pissed me off too. Some people can't bend a little just sucks. I might have truned his arse around and slugged him for turning his back on me like that. At one time you could get people to have a heart and let some things slide but no more. How long is the excuse he/she was just doing thier job before people begin to take some of that attitude back?
If it would have been me I would have let you in 5-10 minutes aint sh!t come on damn.

[Mudman]

We are responsible if we are late, period.  An unyielding hardnosed jerk does not care if you stopped to give cpr to a dying man or if you had a wrong turn.  They dont care if it was their directions that put you in another county.  Its Your responsibility....  What a jerk.  Its not a life or death meeting.   

[winshooter88]

Predatorpro, here is link to the form to apply for the one year hunter ed deferral.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/huntered/files/hunter_ed_deferral_application.pdf

Be sure to send in the  required ID copies and the accompanying hunter has to have had a license for three years.
good luck.

[greenhead_killer]

i will apologize to start off, just so that no one gets hurt feelings, but i agree with the instructor. regardless of the circumstances, i feel it is disrespectful for some one to show late. if there is a start time, then you should honor it. leave fifteen minutes early if thats the case due to not knowing where the place is. i will not be sorry for you. might sound harsh, but you are an adult, have the resepct for someone else. if they say a specific time, be there 5 mins before. i would rather be a no show than late. when i was an apprentice, if i was late, i either called in sick or had to buy coffee/dounuts for the crew. was a great lesson for me.

[dscubame]

Us regular guys understand your position Predatorpro.  Glad you posted your experience with that jerk off and lets move on from this....others can continue the name calling and such on this topic without us. 

And by the way I would pass up on the highway many of the people who showed their colors on this thread right with ya.

All those angry folks over 10 - 15 minutes, can you imagine what kind of lives they lead?  On second thought lets not, movin on.

I am 99% early and I assume you are too but every once in a great while late happens, it just happens, I call it life.

[FC]

Sucks that you wasted your time but I can't say I blame the guy much. When I am in a class on time and people start trickling in 5-10-15-20 minutes late and disrupting the class it pisses me off bigtime! It takes away from those who took the extra care to be on time. 

Any time I am going somewhere new to meet someone or attend some kind of function I give myself a huge time cushion out of respect for the people I am meeting. I also go over my route on a map the day before. Anyone who has fished or hunted with me much knows that I am chronically 15+ minutes EARLY, it's basic courtesy and there appears to be a few in this thread who don't grasp this. Show up 15 minutes late to the launch to fish and you will probably be doing some swimming to get to my boat if you want to join me! 

[Kola16]

Wow! Very sensitive guys on here. I didn't know that walking through a door was so irritating 

[ribka]

For the record I met PP and he helped me with the Desert Unit last year. Good guy.

I'll help you with your GPS if you help me with some coyote tips

ok last post on this for me...i never once said i was entitled or my wife was to get what we want cuz we werent there on time, i like how people try to make me out as a spoiled little brat who throws a fit when i dont get what i want...i never said it wasnt his right to tell us no, his attitude towards us when he told us is what made me the most mad he came out there with a big ol *censored* eating grin and told us we cant come in....i dont know what its like to be like some of you on here like your just gods gift to the earth...for some reason i seriously doubt you are that amazing...but i could be wrong...even tho some of you post on here all the time about how much better you are than everyone else....good luck in life! maybe some day ill run in to you on the side of the road with a broken truck and ill just have to tell you with a big grin on my face! "well i guess you should brought the right tool to fix that! hope you learned your lesson!" while i leave you there!

[runningboard]

I am an instructor and can see both sides, if you were told to be there at a specific time then you need to be there at that time or be denied entry for the sake of the people that did show up on time to be able to get done and leave at the appointed time.
another person who said he was present said others were denied after you left and certainly after the boy left, so I wonder if he let you in when does he draw the line? does he let the kid in @ 5 minutes late, your wife @ 15 minutes late then have disgruntled people who turn him into the state for denying them when he let your wife and the kid in?
I do not do online certs(yet), I only teach full-on regular classes that are 15 hours in length. I make it clear from orientation day that I expect everyone to be on time so I can start and you will receive the required amount of instructing only by being on time and present. but also on that 1st day I give everyone a # where they can reach me, not my home # when I am @ the place where I hold classes, if they are lost or late(legimately) they can call me & say so. in those situations maybe we can reach a compromise.
if I were to deny access to someone who missed a day, even for a legimate reason I would apologize for having to do it rather than smirk in their face and tell them to go packing. even if he was in the right over the tardiness, he doesn't need to be a jerk about it.
the state likes us to turn in our class schedule in December so they can put it on the website but it can be difficult to know when local events are going on and to schedule accordingly to those when they aren't scheduled yet.
I have never been asked by the state to do a class on their schedule, I choose & I always say to my classes, "I do this because I love to hunt myself & I believe in what we are trying to teach you, so if you have friends who need this class tell them to get in here and let's get it done. if they're too busy to do it when I have classes, sorry. but when they need it, I'll be too busy hunting."

[Mudman]

I am an instructor and can see both sides, if you were told to be there at a specific time then you need to be there at that time or be denied entry for the sake of the people that did show up on time to be able to get done and leave at the appointed time.
another person who said he was present said others were denied after you left and certainly after the boy left, so I wonder if he let you in when does he draw the line? does he let the kid in @ 5 minutes late, your wife @ 15 minutes late then have disgruntled people who turn him into the state for denying them when he let your wife and the kid in?
I do not do online certs(yet), I only teach full-on regular classes that are 15 hours in length. I make it clear from orientation day that I expect everyone to be on time so I can start and you will receive the required amount of instructing only by being on time and present. but also on that 1st day I give everyone a # where they can reach me, not my home # when I am @ the place where I hold classes, if they are lost or late(legimately) they can call me & say so. in those situations maybe we can reach a compromise.
if I were to deny access to someone who missed a day, even for a legimate reason I would apologize for having to do it rather than smirk in their face and tell them to go packing. even if he was in the right over the tardiness, he doesn't need to be a jerk about it.
the state likes us to turn in our class schedule in December so they can put it on the website but it can be difficult to know when local events are going on and to schedule accordingly to those when they aren't scheduled yet.
I have never been asked by the state to do a class on their schedule, I choose & I always say to my classes, "I do this because I love to hunt myself & I believe in what we are trying to teach you, so if you have friends who need this class tell them to get in here and let's get it done. if they're too busy to do it when I have classes, sorry. but when they need it, I'll be too busy hunting."