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questions for you suppressor guys
« on: October 14, 2012, 02:14:58 PM »
I've been playing around with the idea of getting a suppressor and I thought I'd ask the advice of you folks who have first hand experience.

Right now I'm torn between getting a 30 caliber or a 338 caliber. The only 30 caliber I have right now is my 300 WSM. My thought was that a 30 cal can would work on a smaller 6.5-7mm caliber in the future. Since I don't see anyone making 6.5 mm specific suppressors, I assume that you guys are using 30 cal versions. If that's the case, Do you feel like it's effective enough on the smaller bore diameter?

The other option is to get a larger bore suppressor for the 338 or possibly 375. I tend to shoot more of the medium bore calibers than I do small bore stuff. I already have a few 338s and the 375 BME which would be fun with the suppressor on them. Then I could also run the same unit on the 300 WSM as well.

Right now I'm just thinking out loud trying to plan next years build. I haven't had time to play with the stuff I built this year, but that's not going to stop me :chuckle:

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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 02:24:47 PM »
i have a holland break on my 7 stw and it is amazing.ive shot it many times without hearing protection and no problem.years ago i had a old school break with all the holes in it and i shot it without plugs and quite sure i lost hearing over it.love this one and recoil is less than my 243 and i shoot 180 bergers in it.

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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2012, 03:01:27 PM »
I would pick up a .308 and have it suppressed!  You want a load below the sound barrier or you still get a crack, unless your just going for noise reduction!
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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2012, 03:07:45 PM »
i have a holland break on my 7 stw and it is amazing.ive shot it many times without hearing protection and no problem.years ago i had a old school break with all the holes in it and i shot it without plugs and quite sure i lost hearing over it.love this one and recoil is less than my 243 and i shoot 180 bergers in it.

He's not asking about " brakes ", suppressors are completely a different animal.
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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2012, 04:06:40 PM »
I would pick up a .308 and have it suppressed!  You want a load below the sound barrier or you still get a crack, unless your just going for noise reduction!

The goal is to make the guns more fun for my kids to shoot. I don't like muzzle brakes because of the increased noise. Even brakes like the Holland or Muscle brake make the gun significantly louder. It's just not as bad for the shooter. You don't want to be sitting to the side of any of these brakes. When I take my kids out, especially my son, the noise is what scares them. A suppressor helps with both the recoil and noise. Plus it looks cool. :tup:

Also, I've loaded subsonic rounds for all of my guns. All it takes is a case full of Trail Boss powder and a heavy bullet.

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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 07:37:29 AM »
I run a 30 cal can on my 6.5 Lapua and it works great.
The 338 and up sized cans are typically larger and heavier than the 30 cal cans,
also cost more.
 The suppressors do not cut recoil as much as a good brake does, so keep that in mind also.

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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 10:00:44 AM »
Id like to get one can and put it onto multiple rifles, someday..

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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 01:31:53 PM »
How much if any is suppressor performance affected by using it on a caliber smaller than what the supressor was designed for? For example using a .30 caliber suppressor on a .223.

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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 05:24:49 AM »
How much if any is suppressor performance affected by using it on a caliber smaller than what the supressor was designed for? For example using a .30 caliber suppressor on a .223.
Had a guy on the range I visit shooting a .223 with a .30 cal  supressor said that he thought his suppressor was better than having a .223 suppressor.  Even though the baffle holes were bigger the spaces for gas to expand where larger and the suppressor "seemed" to be a little quiter than the a .223 one.  The AR shooting normal ammo, seemed pretty quiet (probably quietier than my .22lr) to me even with action noise and the sonic crack.  I bet it does wiegh more though, but paying one price for the ability to suppress multiple calibers seems worth it.
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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 04:32:12 PM »
How much if any is suppressor performance affected by using it on a caliber smaller than what the supressor was designed for? For example using a .30 caliber suppressor on a .223.
Had a guy on the range I visit shooting a .223 with a .30 cal  supressor said that he thought his suppressor was better than having a .223 suppressor.  Even though the baffle holes were bigger the spaces for gas to expand where larger and the suppressor "seemed" to be a little quiter than the a .223 one.  The AR shooting normal ammo, seemed pretty quiet (probably quietier than my .22lr) to me even with action noise and the sonic crack.  I bet it does wiegh more though, but paying one price for the ability to suppress multiple calibers seems worth it.
   Recently bought on for my AR and was thinking of having my 22 .250 barrel threaded. Was told yes it works but I would be better off buying a .308 can to use on my 22 .250. Graeat htere goes another $1000  :chuckle:
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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 07:50:47 PM »
where can you get one made for the 300 or 270.
any one know a company
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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 08:03:24 PM »
i would say from .308 on down to 6mm with a .30 cal can you would hardly hear any difference. once you start going below 6mm the effectivenes goes down. theres just too much space around the bullet
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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 05:17:34 AM »
where can you get one made for the 300 or 270.
any one know a company
Surefire is pretty nice.  The ones they make are heavy, but use inconel.
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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2012, 07:34:25 AM »
The 308 can's work great on 22-250 and up.  There just doesn't seem to be enough gas on 223's to make them quiet.  That is why most 223 can's are alot smaller in diameter and designed a little differently and don't suggest using them with 22-250's.  I use my 30 cal Thunderbeast on my 22-250AI on up to 300WM's.  The Ultramags take a 338 can due to the volume of gas.  Standard 30 cal can's will work on the 7mm and 300 Ultra, but don't last very long.
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Re: questions for you suppressor guys
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2012, 08:17:46 AM »
The 308 can's work great on 22-250 and up.  There just doesn't seem to be enough gas on 223's to make them quiet.  That is why most 223 can's are alot smaller in diameter and designed a little differently and don't suggest using them with 22-250's.  I use my 30 cal Thunderbeast on my 22-250AI on up to 300WM's.  The Ultramags take a 338 can due to the volume of gas.  Standard 30 cal can's will work on the 7mm and 300 Ultra, but don't last very long.

I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. According to Wikipedia both .223 and .22-250 use the same .224 inch diameter bullet...I would think less expanding gas would make a suppressor more effective rather than less. You said your magnums need a larger can to compensate for more gasses right?  :dunno:

 


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