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An important message from CCA Washington:
 
We have no doubt that you have closely followed the many recent twists and turns of the collective efforts of CCA in Oregon and Washington to put an end to commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River.  CCA’s actions over the past several years, including this year’s ballot measure effort in Oregon, have been strategically focused on getting indiscriminate gillnets off of our native fish and wildlife populations forever.  Period.  CCA members across the Northwest have been critical to all of these efforts.
 
The time has come for all of us to strike a final blow to indiscriminate gillnetting by  attending an important meeting Thursday, October 18 in Portland and sending WDFW Commission members a pre-drafted email in support of the essential components of Oregon Governor Kitzhaber’s proposal.  Please continue reading this alert as more important details are included below. 
 
It would take too long to describe how we have arrived at this critical moment, but the more important fact is that we are just weeks away from a watershed moment when the Washington and Oregon Fish and Wildlife Commissions will vote to adopt a proposal that would rid the lower Columbia River of gillnets.  After years of work our elected officials agree that non-selective gillnets have no place in the sensitive, mixed-stock fisheries of the lower Columbia River.  Oregon Governor Kitzhaber and the two candidates to become Washington’s next Governor are on board with a plan that removes gillnets, is good for the fish and would boost the economy of our region.
 
By now you are well aware of the fundamental components of this proposal.  While the bi-state Commission working group is working through important details, there is growing agreement that gillnets must be removed from the mainstem of the Columbia River where they threaten native fish and wildlife populations.
 
This decision will be made in the next three months.  The outcome will set the tone for how we will manage fisheries across the Pacific Northwest for years to come.  We have no choice to but to go all in at this critical moment as we know the gillnet lobby will do the same.
 
Here’s what we need you to do:
 
Attend Thursday’s Important Meeting in Portland.  The next meeting of the bi-state Commission Working Group is scheduled for Thursday, October 18 at the Portland Airport Embassy Suites Hotel (address:  7900 Northeast 82nd Avenue; Portland, OR 97220)  The meeting will start at 8:30 and is open to the public.  The agenda can be found here. We need to pack the room with supporters of this common sense reform (we will have stickers and signs available).  Be sure to sign in clearly indicating your support for removing gillnets.  While the workgroup public comment period is likely to be short, you can provide brief comments to the Commissioners to express your support.  In short, show up and be counted!  If you do plan to attend the meeting or would like talking points, please email us at info@ccapnw.org.
 
Take 30 seconds to send a pre-drafted email to the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission:  We must make it abundantly clear that the public overwhelmingly supports removing gillnets from the Columbia River.  While we have pre-drafted the email, we encourage you to personalize it indicating why you support this critical reform.  Emails can also be sent directly to commission@dfw.wa.gov.
 
Commit to attending ODFW Commission meetings in November and/or December to push this over the top.  We will provide more details as the meetings are scheduled.
 
Friends, this is our time to stand up for the resource and the next generation of those who will care for it!
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2012, 11:53:34 AM »
I heard the CCA doesn't support this measure anymore.  Oregon's governer came up with a plan to eventually remove mainstream nets only.   :dunno:

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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2012, 11:56:45 AM »
Who does the commercial gill nets? Is it Native fishermen?
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2012, 12:36:10 PM »
Pman, it is not natives.

All nets in the river should come out, IMO.
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2012, 12:50:28 PM »
Pman, it is not natives.

All nets in the river should come out, IMO.

Yes, but there's nothing that can be done about the Native nets under treaty obligations, certainly not at the state level. Thanks for the answer.
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2012, 12:51:44 PM »
Pman, it is not natives.

All nets in the river should come out, IMO.

Yes, but there's nothing that can be done about the Native nets under treaty obligations, certainly not at the state level. Thanks for the answer.

The nets at issue are non-tribal.

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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 01:26:44 PM »
Pman, it is not natives.

All nets in the river should come out, IMO.

Yes, but there's nothing that can be done about the Native nets under treaty obligations, certainly not at the state level. Thanks for the answer.

Yeah, the last time an initiative was voted on in this state, a lot of people voted against the net ban because natives would still be netting.  I say get the non-native nets out and worry about natives later. :twocents:
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 01:28:48 PM »
I will never support a ban unless it is fairly applied to all people regardless of race or other "treaties".

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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2012, 01:33:19 PM »
I will never support a ban unless it is fairly applied to all people regardless of race or other "treaties".

You should.  There is no reason that we (meaning non-Indians) should be netting in the Columbia.  It costs our state economy millions and hurts a lot of businesses.  Whether it is really beneficial to our fish to remove the nets from the Columbia remains to be seen, but the economic impact alone is plenty of reason.  Don't let the perfect idea prevent a good idea from happening.   

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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2012, 01:47:42 PM »
I will never support a ban unless it is fairly applied to all people regardless of race or other "treaties".

 :yeah: too many things have been lost to us...all the nets go or we watch the fish go .....

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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 01:54:21 PM »
I will never support a ban unless it is fairly applied to all people regardless of race or other "treaties".

OK, but the state has no power over treaties that have been ratified in Congress. That's the only reason I was asking. I'm not taking the Natives' side on this either. I think your attitude is fair, but I don't think a ban will affect Natives fishing under treaty rights.
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 01:57:38 PM »
I will never support a ban unless it is fairly applied to all people regardless of race or other "treaties".

You should.  There is no reason that we (meaning non-Indians) should be netting in the Columbia.  It costs our state economy millions and hurts a lot of businesses.  Whether it is really beneficial to our fish to remove the nets from the Columbia remains to be seen, but the economic impact alone is plenty of reason.  Don't let the perfect idea prevent a good idea from happening.

 :yeah:

I think we need to show that we're willing to quit netting first.  Then we can work on convincing the natives.

It is just like elk in the Colockum.  We need to go to permit only for the area and then we can work on getting the natives to have better management. :twocents:
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 02:17:47 PM »
I will never support a ban unless it is fairly applied to all people regardless of race or other "treaties".

 :yeah: too many things have been lost to us...all the nets go or we watch the fish go .....

All or nothing will eventually accomplish nothing. This is probably not the stand that will best affect change in salmon stocks. I agree with Curly. You have to start somewhere and we could start with ourselves, trying to convince Native councils to adopt like, sensible restrictions after results are shown.
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2012, 02:25:39 PM »
I will never support a ban unless it is fairly applied to all people regardless of race or other "treaties".

 :yeah: too many things have been lost to us...all the nets go or we watch the fish go .....

All or nothing will eventually accomplish nothing. This is probably not the stand that will best affect change in salmon stocks. I agree with Curly. You have to start somewhere and we could start with ourselves, trying to convince Native councils to adopt like, sensible restrictions after results are shown.
:yeah: hopefully someday, it would be nice, hell i wish they would do away with all comercial fishing, give the commercial guys a job enforcing and counting fish so they dont go jobless, my thoughts have always been if you cant fish or hunt for it then you shouldnt get to eat it, sounds harsh i know, but all are fish runs and numbers would sky rocket... :twocents:
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Re: End commercial gillnetting on the Columbia River. Need your help
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 02:29:41 PM »
Or give the commercial guys jobs catching sealions........ :tup:
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