Bullets for Coyotes?

[Gringo31]

Back to the topic at hand.....

I would not encourage anyone to use FMJ.  The recovery on dogs hit well is....well, a pain.  I've seen too many dogs get hit behind the shoulder, do a spin and then run through the sage requiring some tracking to recover.

IMHO, I prefer 55g JHP and put in on the shoulder.  No exit and bang flop.

[scout/sniper]

While i agree it is best to "put our best fooot forward", it also that mindset of accomodation that has screwed our sport.

I see no need to accommodate. All it takes is good sportsmanship and they will have nothing to say. I don't think we are giving in by acting responsibly.

[scout/sniper]

Back to the topic at hand.....

I would not encourage anyone to use FMJ.  The recovery on dogs hit well is....well, a pain.  I've seen too many dogs get hit behind the shoulder, do a spin and then run through the sage requiring some tracking to recover.

IMHO, I prefer 55g JHP and put in on the shoulder.  No exit and bang flop.

Right, sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread. I digress.

[CAMPMEAT]

Don't care about PETA or any other communist groups like that. They can all go to hell. I'm not controlled by anyone or group, but that's the way I am. I won't succumb to their ideas or lower myself to appease people or groups just for media appeal. I think people and groups are spineless that do.

It's not about giving in. They are powerful groups trying to take our rights away. We need to take the high road and show that we are responsible and humane. Not judging you at all, I hate them as much as you do.

Exactly, but there is no room to complain or argue when they use tactics like "All hunters are thrill killer's," or "They kill and wound and cause needless suffering without any regard."  Has nothing to do with bowing down or giving in, its about keeping as positive and professional an image as possible instead of making ill-thought out  statements on a public forum that help to validate their propaganda in the eyes of the non-hunting community.

All of my thoughts are well thought out because I don't follow PETAs rules or anybody elses. People forget, coyotes are predators and don't care about chasing down a deer and torturing it and leaving it for dead. PETA is not the boss of hunters. Hunters are afraid of any and all groups like PETA just for the reason you stated, propaganda. They use it against us and we ( hunters ) don't have deep pockets to fight pukes like that. I'm just being honest and that's what I do. 

[wannabhntr]

Back to the topic at hand.....

I would not encourage anyone to use FMJ.  The recovery on dogs hit well is....well, a pain.  I've seen too many dogs get hit behind the shoulder, do a spin and then run through the sage requiring some tracking to recover.

IMHO, I prefer 55g JHP and put in on the shoulder.  No exit and bang flop.

Thanks Gringo. Will the two bullets shoot the same or will I have to start from scratch if I decide to switch?

[KyleMB123]

I was thinking about taking my AKMS out next time I try to call in some coyotes. I use 122gr FMJs. Will that put the buggers down? I figure because it's such a large round the fact that it's FMJ won't matter too much, and I will have 29 follow up shots just in case.

[dannysdaddy]

I have shot them with FMJ's but they can take a couple shots.  i like the hornaday v-max's.  they stoot well out of my rifle and hit hard.

[MadHatter]

I use soft point 180gr .308 rounds, or for my .22-250 the 55gr V-max rounds... Either way, puts them down hard but absolutely destroys the pelt. 

You don't mess around, that's some serious artillery for a yote. 

Nope... I don't save hides, and 308 is cheaper than 22-250 for the most part. Plus I normally have 6 boxes or so hanging around from deer and elk because I usually buy a case in July or so, do my sight in, confirm my tables out to 500 then hunting is really no more than maybe 5 rounds if you can't shoot worth a crap.. So I use up the rest on yotes... Will probably get a case of 22-250 for coyote madness though. For me it's all about the one shot kill and as long as I can hit the target its going to be killed.

One problem I run into though is that a yote doesn't provide quite enough to mass for the round to expand all the way. So while it transfers enough energy to kill the sucker dead as a door nail, its still only expanding about 50% of what it would in a deer or elk. Now, I get two yotes standing side by side and you can definitely double with one shot :-)

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[Brownie28]

While i agree it is best to "put our best fooot forward", it also that mindset of accomodation that has screwed our sport.

I see no need to accommodate. All it takes is good sportsmanship and they will have nothing to say. I don't think we are giving in by acting responsibly.

Good sportsmanship is not enough these a$$holes don't care about ethics sportsmanship clean kills. The fact that u own a gun and hunt with it is all they need to know to hate u and want to protest and ban everything hunting and Hunting related. Apologize and accommodate for nobody!!

[Special T]

If they can't find a hunter to put through the wringer they will use a "poacher" and call him a hunter. 

[scout/sniper]

I use soft point 180gr .308 rounds, or for my .22-250 the 55gr V-max rounds... Either way, puts them down hard but absolutely destroys the pelt. 

You don't mess around, that's some serious artillery for a yote. 

Nope... I don't save hides, and 308 is cheaper than 22-250 for the most part. Plus I normally have 6 boxes or so hanging around from deer and elk because I usually buy a case in July or so, do my sight in, confirm my tables out to 500 then hunting is really no more than maybe 5 rounds if you can't shoot worth a crap.. So I use up the rest on yotes... Will probably get a case of 22-250 for coyote madness though. For me it's all about the one shot kill and as long as I can hit the target its going to be killed.

One problem I run into though is that a yote doesn't provide quite enough to mass for the round to expand all the way. So while it transfers enough energy to kill the sucker dead as a door nail, its still only expanding about 50% of what it would in a deer or elk. Now, I get two yotes standing side by side and you can definitely double with one shot :-)

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I shouldn't really say much, I'm going to use my .50 muzzy to help up our points. Should make quite a mess of a yote.

[magnanimous_j]

I was thinking about taking my AKMS out next time I try to call in some coyotes. I use 122gr FMJs. Will that put the buggers down? I figure because it's such a large round the fact that it's FMJ won't matter too much, and I will have 29 follow up shots just in case.

It should be fine. I tagged one with my Yugo AK from about 40 yards out and it went right down.

[VarmintVentilator]

wannabhntr,  Even if they're the same weight bullet, (fmj or hp) it's best to check zero.  Each bullet flys a little different.

[Special T]

IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.     I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

[wannabhntr]

Thanks again for all the info guys.