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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #165 on: November 26, 2012, 07:47:00 AM »
HEY  ,if you guys out who shoot 2 points thinking they are legal shouldnt be out there period . Check out some of these nice bucks ,now think how many more would be availble to pursue if you didnt pop off all the two's . Looking forsupport on your act here is a disgrace,besides who in heck would stick a deer inside the cab if something wasnt up my guess is if you didnt get BUSTED no  one would of this pathetic act.
I doubt that he was out to shoot a 2 point, and he obviously knows a 2 point is not legal.
Jumping on the bandwagon of people flaming him is a pathetic act.
Accidents happen and people do stupid things when they are scared "putting it in the cab"
I seriously doubt that he was poaching. As I stated earlier, I would love to know the real truth about the hunting activities of all you people who are condemning him.
I would wager that you people have done similar acts, probably much worse.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #166 on: November 26, 2012, 11:51:06 AM »
Funny how all hunters on hunt WA are so perfect and ethical lmao. Amazing how online they become a hunting Jesus.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #167 on: November 26, 2012, 11:54:05 AM »
A hunting Jesus now thats a new one!! :chuckle:
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #168 on: November 26, 2012, 12:13:42 PM »
Sooo... What was the outcome?   :dunno:

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #169 on: November 26, 2012, 12:19:43 PM »
:yeah:

He never did tell us how court went?

He's probably tired of getting yelled at...  Coming on this site and admitting to doing something wrong must feel a bit like going to confession, except that there is no screen and the priest keeps yelling at you and calling you names.... :(
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #170 on: November 26, 2012, 12:24:16 PM »
:yeah:

He never did tell us how court went?

He's probably tired of getting yelled at...  Coming on this site and admitting to doing something wrong must feel a bit like going to confession, except that there is no screen and the priest keeps yelling at you and calling you names.... :(

Yeah... I appreciate these threads though... at least the first few pages of them.  Being a new hunter, I have wondered what I would do should I misjudge my game.  I would have tagged it, hauled it out, taken it home, and then called it in.  I would never have thought of calling 911 because shooting the wrong animal doesn't fit in the "emergency" category of my head.  These threads help me see the legal process.  If he is even checking this thread anymore, I'd love to know what happened.


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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #171 on: November 26, 2012, 12:59:34 PM »
:yeah:

He never did tell us how court went?

He's probably tired of getting yelled at...  Coming on this site and admitting to doing something wrong must feel a bit like going to confession, except that there is no screen and the priest keeps yelling at you and calling you names.... :(

Yeah... I appreciate these threads though... at least the first few pages of them.  Being a new hunter, I have wondered what I would do should I misjudge my game.  I would have tagged it, hauled it out, taken it home, and then called it in.  I would never have thought of calling 911 because shooting the wrong animal doesn't fit in the "emergency" category of my head.  These threads help me see the legal process.  If he is even checking this thread anymore, I'd love to know what happened.

I know a guy that did this a few years ago.  He called himself in immediately (before he even got it gutted).  Still got the ticket.  Court went a lot easier on him because he did though.  A little more food for thought; when he called himself in the game warden said "Yeah, we already know about it.  Someone called it in already..."

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #172 on: November 26, 2012, 01:33:22 PM »
I think the punishment of simply pleading guilty and letting the judge crush you is far different from the punishment of negotiating a guilty plea with punishment before you get to the judge.

So basically a guy has to plead not guilty (even though he is guilty) and pay a lawyer to be able to get a better deal?  I guess it is a way of keeping attorney's in business............  :dunno:

It's not like you have to hire an attorney.  If you don't want to pay one feel free to just plead guilty and let the chips fall as they may....

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #173 on: November 26, 2012, 01:38:41 PM »
Our hunter education classes usually have a session with an enforcement officer. He advises the students they are responsible for knowing the regulations. If a mistake is made, own up to it and accept the consequences. Trying to hide something or deceive them is going to exponentially increase the penalties if caught. As was pointed out, when they're asking you questions they typically already know the answer.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #174 on: November 26, 2012, 01:44:17 PM »
I think the punishment of simply pleading guilty and letting the judge crush you is far different from the punishment of negotiating a guilty plea with punishment before you get to the judge.

So basically a guy has to plead not guilty (even though he is guilty) and pay a lawyer to be able to get a better deal?  I guess it is a way of keeping attorney's in business............  :dunno:

It's not like you have to hire an attorney.  If you don't want to pay one feel free to just plead guilty and let the chips fall as they may....

That is probably what I would do if I ever make a mistake like that.  But if a guy wants to take a chance at getting a "deal" he has to plead not guilty apparently.  It is too bad that the punishment for a mistake is the same as a poacher who purposely kills an illegal deer.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #175 on: November 26, 2012, 01:53:40 PM »
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It is too bad that the punishment for a mistake is the same as a poacher who purposely kills an illegal deer.
I would not presume that to be true in most instances. The enforcement officers I know would approach those situations differently and be more aggressive in a case of deliberate poaching.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #176 on: November 26, 2012, 02:10:29 PM »
Our hunter education classes usually have a session with an enforcement officer. He advises the students they are responsible for knowing the regulations. If a mistake is made, own up to it and accept the consequences. Trying to hide something or deceive them is going to exponentially increase the penalties if caught. As was pointed out, when they're asking you questions they typically already know the answer.

To each his own.  I would tell them I will talk to my attorney about talking to them and leave it at that.  It is plain stupid to talk to any law enforcement if you are being questioned prior to talking to a lawyer.  Even if you do confess, it is better to work a deal through your attorney prior to doing so.  Unless, of course, you are like Curly and just want to get the most severe punishment possible.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #177 on: November 26, 2012, 02:46:45 PM »
Our hunter education classes usually have a session with an enforcement officer. He advises the students they are responsible for knowing the regulations. If a mistake is made, own up to it and accept the consequences. Trying to hide something or deceive them is going to exponentially increase the penalties if caught. As was pointed out, when they're asking you questions they typically already know the answer.

To each his own.  I would tell them I will talk to my attorney about talking to them and leave it at that.  It is plain stupid to talk to any law enforcement if you are being questioned prior to talking to a lawyer.  Even if you do confess, it is better to work a deal through your attorney prior to doing so.  Unless, of course, you are like Curly and just want to get the most severe punishment possible.

Yep agree with WSU. You owe police officers no duty for cooperation or to give statements. Tell them you want a lawyer and shut up. You make your case worse the longer you speak or write statements. The worst Curely did was give them a written statement and stating that no lawyer will help my case- this is just stupid. Law is the law just because you admit to a crime, that doesn't mean you are entitled to a lesser degree of punishment or charge. I have seen some ridicolous statements from people to officer. I gues than go ahead admit you did, it just makes the police/prosecutors job a lot easier.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #178 on: November 26, 2012, 02:51:19 PM »
I meant to say Supermatt not Curley

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #179 on: November 26, 2012, 03:24:18 PM »
Nothing you say to a cop can benefit you in any way, only harm.
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