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Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« on: November 15, 2012, 09:16:35 AM »
Looking to get your opinion on what you have used for a backer board When pulling an elk out of a steep clear cut Whole with a chainsaw wench or pulling up to a road with rope and pulleys...

I've see guys use a wood toboggan type sled or a long flat 1" oak peice of wood with holes drilled on the edges to tie the animal too.

I've also seen the Coastal guys pull and elk out of an open cut with 1/2 mile of rope and thier trucks...

I guess if we drag the elk on a gravel road or up a rocky slope, I don't want the gravel or rock to become inbedded into the elk...

Just looking for your prospective...

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 09:18:55 AM »
Plastic Kiddy sled has worked good. Cheap too.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 09:22:11 AM »
Never used anything.  They got some pretty thick hide,  I have never seen one get torn open from rocks or sticks. 

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 09:24:18 AM »
One can't go wrong with a good game carrier on wheels.  :dunno: :tup:

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 09:24:30 AM »
I've drug them with an ATV.  They'll lose a lot of hair, but the hide is really tough.  I doubt with a winch you are going to tear the hide.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 09:27:44 AM »
Our camp has a 80mm or 100mm HDPE sled. It works great and we have pulled out multiple elk and even a moose with it.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2012, 09:30:18 AM »
I pull them out with a pulley strapped to a tree and 600' feet of rope tied to my truck. I keep the rope on a spool and take it with me in the truck. Quick and easy.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2012, 09:37:53 AM »
we use a capstan winch and several hundred feet of rope.  pulled them with nothing, tarps, and cabela's deer sleigh'er.  the deer sleigh'er is nice because you can wrap them securely and pull from the back legs so there is less chance of snagging antlers or noses.  pulling from the head is best if not using anything to wrap them so the hair isn't rubbed off, but you need to monitor them more for hangups.

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Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2012, 10:05:01 AM »
Good info. For the record we pulled my brothers cow out with rope pulleys and his truck. We drug the animal on the gravel road and when we started skinning her out there was gravel and dirt that got through the hide and buried about 1/2" into the shoulder.




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Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2012, 10:07:47 AM »
I meant to ask- Xforce

Where did you obtain the HDPE sled?

Plastics company?? We have a place here called tap plastics...


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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2012, 10:15:06 AM »
One can't go wrong with a good game carrier on wheels.  :dunno: :tup:

My buddy and I attempted to haul my spike out on a game cart whole last year out of the hell hole I shot him in.

That was a learning experience  :chuckle:

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2012, 10:22:50 AM »
Good info. For the record we pulled my brothers cow out with rope pulleys and his truck. We drug the animal on the gravel road and when we started skinning her out there was gravel and dirt that got through the hide and buried about 1/2" into the shoulder.
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LOL, we only pull it to the road and skin it there.
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Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2012, 10:44:59 AM »
Yeah. We put it to the road too but were 1/2 mile or so behind a locked gate...


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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2012, 10:45:25 AM »
Ruttin- We had some leftover HDPE from work and came up with a design that works fairly well. We have talked about making a couple to see if people would be interested in them but we havent pursued it.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2012, 11:14:04 AM »
90% of the elk come up the hill to a road whole around here.  Block and cable.

Nothing is put under the animal.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2012, 11:23:47 AM »
This posts needs a wench pic:

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2012, 11:35:04 AM »
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2012, 11:46:59 AM »
I quit doing that 5 years ago. Much easier to quarter and take out in a pack.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2012, 12:00:09 PM »
A couple suggestions to throw out there. I have used the plastic sled from Cabelas(but if you order online shipping is spendy) and it worked well. But for heavy stuff like elk moose etc. I used a gurney. When we were hunting moose in AK we used the oars and whe webbing from the slings on the front and back of the raft. The handles worked great as the paddle ends came off. Instead of holding the whole load with your hands we tied a rope to the handles and over your shoulder and wrapped the rope where it went over your shoulder with a towel. It worked great. I have since went on ebay and purchased a light weight stretcher with loop handles on it. I then purchased 4 aluminum light weight poles that connect together and run them thru the stretcher handles. Ready for the next big game animal.  Just another idea to throw out there.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2012, 12:05:50 PM »
A couple suggestions to throw out there.
I like it, never thought of a gurney. Thanks.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2012, 12:06:38 PM »
This posts needs a wench pic:
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2012, 12:09:09 PM »
No problem worked great for me and we packed a big moose 2 miles in and off tundra which is not the easiest.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2012, 12:12:02 PM »
Much easier to quarter and take out in a pack.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2012, 12:55:22 PM »
Mule tape and a block works awesome. you can find it pretty cheap on ebay.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2012, 03:27:04 PM »
we just hook the hay wire to them and to the truck and go. they will pull easy.  then we gut them on the landing or road.  works everytime

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2012, 03:38:16 PM »
Rarely is it easier to quarter and pack an elk where I hunt. The bull I killed died 140 yards from a road and it was in the road whole in under 12 minutes including the time to drag cable to it and attach. We never use anything under the elk.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2012, 03:42:10 PM »
Nice winch!  Now, does anybody have any more pics of wenches?  :)
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2012, 03:58:16 PM »
I've built several of "winches" like that.  The thing you have to remember is you are not really using it to "winch" out the animal.  You use a line puller like the linemen use to pull power lines to actually pull with.  The spool is used to store the wire on.  You can see the strap in the picture that is probably used to do the actual pulling.

We just have all our haywire in coils in the back of the truck.  I'll probably build another spool or two as I have some other ideas, but they are a pain to keep in the back of the truck.  They like to slide around even with rubber on the bottom and rubberized bed liner in the truck...you don't want it to slam into the inside of your box as it weighs a couple hundred pounds with 1500' of wire on it.  As for leaving them in the reciever... I've built them high and then you can't open the tailgate, and I've built them low and the dig into the road when you back up that hill to turn around.

We just have coiled sections in the back of the truck.  I've packed a lot of coils of haywire and it's not that big of a deal.  I have a Simpson capstan winch and I love it.  It's either that or cut it up and pack it out on my back.  I do have a bicycle trailer that works well as long as it's fairly flat.  I gets hard to pedal an elk up any kind of a hill.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2012, 04:04:53 PM »
I must be doing something wrong, cause Ive never killed an elk anywhere near where I could winch it to a road..Maybe I should road hunt more. Or hire a logger that has a yarder, and is willing to string 1500 ft of cable 100ft up a tree for me... :tup:

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2012, 05:35:54 PM »
I've built several of "winches" like that.  The thing you have to remember is you are not really using it to "winch" out the animal.  You use a line puller like the linemen use to pull power lines to actually pull with.  The spool is used to store the wire on.  You can see the strap in the picture that is probably used to do the actual pulling.

We just have all our haywire in coils in the back of the truck.  I'll probably build another spool or two as I have some other ideas, but they are a pain to keep in the back of the truck.  They like to slide around even with rubber on the bottom and rubberized bed liner in the truck...you don't want it to slam into the inside of your box as it weighs a couple hundred pounds with 1500' of wire on it.  As for leaving them in the reciever... I've built them high and then you can't open the tailgate, and I've built them low and the dig into the road when you back up that hill to turn around.

We just have coiled sections in the back of the truck.  I've packed a lot of coils of haywire and it's not that big of a deal.  I have a Simpson capstan winch and I love it.  It's either that or cut it up and pack it out on my back.  I do have a bicycle trailer that works well as long as it's fairly flat.  I gets hard to pedal an elk up any kind of a hill.
right, it isnt a winch just a freespooling roll of cable. this one has 2000 feet. there is a cable squeezer lock thing on teh strap and we set that and drive down the road pulling the elk and then re wind the cable.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2012, 03:30:31 PM »
If you pull slow and set your blocks to lift as opposed to dig, you will be fine. High speed is what tears it up. I have pulled them on dry ground and not tore them up....and burned through the hide dragging them on the snow with a sled.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2012, 09:16:09 PM »
Pulled our Elk out last week. Shot it in the jack firs, and it died down in the windfall/drainage area. Had my dad go up top to the landing and I walked down with 1200 feet of heaving rope. Tie the two back legs together. Tie the two front legs together. Then tie the two front legs to the head. Make a leash around the elks neck and pull. It was going a good 10mph up a straight up and down hillside. The elk just run over the jack firs and roll right over the logs. It got hung up once on a stump, but we got it dressed and packed out in a little over an hour whole.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2012, 08:22:11 PM »
We've used a Lewis chainsaw for a few years. We run a chain around the bulls front shoulder and around it's neck, hook the chainsaw/winch to the chain and run the cable out to stumps and trees and pull the elk. It's easier to guide the elk around  stumps and trees with the winch at the elk than pulling the elk to the winch.  It works well, but anymore I just 1/4 them up and pack them out, less rigamoral and there's no way to get out of work with an elk on the ground.
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2012, 08:52:13 PM »
We've used a Lewis chainsaw for a few years. We run a chain around the bulls front shoulder and around it's neck, hook the chainsaw/winch to the chain and run the cable out to stumps and trees and pull the elk. It's easier to guide the elk around  stumps and trees with the winch at the elk than pulling the elk to the winch.  It works well, but anymore I just 1/4 them up and pack them out, less rigamoral and there's no way to get out of work with an elk on the ground.

When you get tired of lugging that Lewis around.....peek at the simpson capstan winch. Nine pounds of pure happiness.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2012, 10:03:46 PM »
When you get tired of lugging that Lewis around.....peek at the simpson capstan winch. Nine pounds of pure happiness.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2012, 05:59:46 AM »
When you get tired of lugging that Lewis around.....peek at the simpson capstan winch. Nine pounds of pure happiness.

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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2012, 06:10:44 AM »
BTKR check this out
http://capstanropewinch.com/
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Re: Pulling Elk out with Chainsaw wench.... Question
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2012, 08:33:05 AM »
I use one on one of my saws I can have a saw one minute and a winch the next. Some of the best money I ever spent.

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