Spur roads

[fly-by]

I was grouse hunting in 460 Saturday, walking gated logging roads and turning down overgrown spurs.  No grouse, but I noticed a very high percentage of these spurs had Coyote scat right in the middle of the road.  Is it a decent strategy to set up a caller at the end of  these little dead end spurs? Are they generally willing to come out of the thick stuff? 

[grundy53]

It has worked for me.

[fly-by]

Thanks Grundy53.  I assume shotgun works well for tight sets like this.  With the range of most e-caller remotes around 100 yards, and the thick brush, is there much need for a rifle on the west side? 

[MountainWalk]

Hell yes.

[Special T]

I think it depends on the location. I personally think that a shotgun with buckshot can dn will reach aout an kill them at 70-90 yards with 0 Buck shot. At least it has for me... May be much harder to recover tho... I personally feel the ULTIMATE predator gun on this side of the Mts is the Save Modle 24 or 42 in a .223 over 12ga with buck shot.    I think an open sited rifle may have the advantage over a shotgun.

[grundy53]

If Im only taking one gun, I  prefer a rifle.

[bobcat]

It works good to have two people- one with a shotgun, and one with a rifle.

[rynokron]

I'd like to see some 70-90 yard patterns with buckshot. You must have one good shotgun. Mine is only good out to 50. If I only bring one gun it's usually the AR. If someone else has a rifle I pack my 12 guage in the thick stuff.

[bobcat]

I would limit myself to 40 yards with a shotgun.

[fly-by]

Thanks for the responses.  Sounds like the shotgun will work for this type of set. 

As far as more open areas, do any of the callers have a time delay so you can put it in a clearcut or more open area, giving you time to go get set up 100-200 yards out?  I would really like to camp out at the top of a clearcut that borders thick stuff and use the 25-06.

[bearmanric]

Bobcats  how I hunt the coast . Watch good I have gotten up a few times and there's a bobcat. Will use a shotgun more this year. #4 buckshot and I have a bunch of dead coyote with my AR or 22-250

[Special T]

I have not patterned my shotgun with my home brew loads. I take my poured 0 buck and stack 9 pellets into a 2 3/4 trap load. Since i have killed more than one at the 70+ yards i don't think its a fluke... Most buck shot does not use a shot cup. The balls rub against the barrel as it traves and creates spin on the buckshot. That helps it disperse quicker. In my next bach i will make i will try and pattern it. I'm also goin got try and "Buffer" it by packing in some ground corn cob which is supposed to keep it tighter longer...
BTW i have killed a coyote with my 18 in HD barrel at about 40-50 yards with this load.

[bearpaw]

Try some of those "dead coyote" shotgun cartridges, they are supposed to be really good. 

[Special T]

I think its non toxic TTT shot about 17 cal i think. I wonder if it has a shot cup like bird shot... I have used #4 buckshot. It patterned well but didn't have much knock down at distance...

[bobcat]

I use lead BB's, but only because that's what I have. If you want the best, you want the Dead Coyote loads.