2012 Governors and Raffle Tags

[boneaddict]

Its his money and his luck.  I hope he had the time of his life.  I also hope the funds get used in a manner to help wildlife by the WDFW.

[Woodchuck]

 

[johnnyaustin44]

Don't the gov tags go September 1 to August 31? Use the raffle tag on first bull and pop gov tag on another by end of August.

[bobcat]

I think it is Sept 1 to Dec 31.

[johnnyaustin44]

Could be bobcat. I'm just going off other states like Arizona or newmexico that are a year long season. Governor tags are out of my price range so not a lot of research goes into there 

[jackelope]

They are not governors tags here. They are auction tags. You're all done end if day 12/31.

[BLUEBULLS]

3 days left....

It's dissapointing that one guy can have both the govenor and the raffle tag.... Gives us average guys that aren't rich even worse odds...

Why is it disappointing? The whole point of these tags is to sell them to the highest bidder. It will be 30+ years if ever before I could responsibly afford such a tag. If nobody else wants to top that persons bid then why shouldn't he have it?

Not the point of the raffle tag, well, not really anyways. It just leave s little hope for the guys like me who only throw down about $60.

I am happy I still have a sliver of a chance though maybe one day

[grousetracker]

if any bull beats dan agnews then he will have to spend more than the 100,000 he paid for the last one.

[Bob33]

3 days left....

It's dissapointing that one guy can have both the govenor and the raffle tag.... Gives us average guys that aren't rich even worse odds...

Why is it disappointing? The whole point of these tags is to sell them to the highest bidder. It will be 30+ years if ever before I could responsibly afford such a tag. If nobody else wants to top that persons bid then why shouldn't he have it?

It is disappointing because wildlife should belong to everyone in the state, not just the highest bidder. A key tenet of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation is that wildlife is a public resource, owned equally by everyone.

Each year it seems that a bit more of our wildlife is auctioned off, which runs counter to the ideal that everyone has the same opportunity.

While I understand the good that comes from the revenue that auctions generate, it is a slippery slope.

[Maverick]

 

[huntnphool]

3 days left....

It's dissapointing that one guy can have both the govenor and the raffle tag.... Gives us average guys that aren't rich even worse odds...

Why is it disappointing? The whole point of these tags is to sell them to the highest bidder. It will be 30+ years if ever before I could responsibly afford such a tag. If nobody else wants to top that persons bid then why shouldn't he have it?

It is disappointing because wildlife should belong to everyone in the state, not just the highest bidder. A key tenet of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation is that wildlife is a public resource, owned equally by everyone.

Each year it seems that a bit more of our wildlife is auctioned off, which runs counter to the ideal that everyone has the same opportunity.

While I understand the good that comes from the revenue that auctions generate, it is a slippery slope.

I don't see how its a slippery slope. WDFW set the quotas of animals they predict will be harvested as a percentage each year. If they allocate 100 bulls to the east side for the season then is it really that big a deal that they issue 99 of them to permits and one to the auction?

Same with mule deer, how many east side mule deer quality permits are given out each year? I don't see how subtracting one from the total for a auction is going to make a gnats ass difference in your draw odds, and the additional revenue it produces can be used for purchasing more land etc.

[Skyvalhunter]

I personally think they are issuing way to many quality tags and even some of the other permits. Some of the areas have suffered greatly because of this, hard winters, etc. An example of this is the Alta area which has gone from one of the better permits to have to a much lesser of an area. I can forsee some of the other quality areas following the same scenario. All this in the name of sales and generating money for the general fund. But that's just my observations.

[Bob33]

3 days left....

It's dissapointing that one guy can have both the govenor and the raffle tag.... Gives us average guys that aren't rich even worse odds...

Why is it disappointing? The whole point of these tags is to sell them to the highest bidder. It will be 30+ years if ever before I could responsibly afford such a tag. If nobody else wants to top that persons bid then why shouldn't he have it?

It is disappointing because wildlife should belong to everyone in the state, not just the highest bidder. A key tenet of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation is that wildlife is a public resource, owned equally by everyone.

Each year it seems that a bit more of our wildlife is auctioned off, which runs counter to the ideal that everyone has the same opportunity.

While I understand the good that comes from the revenue that auctions generate, it is a slippery slope.

I don't see how its a slippery slope. WDFW set the quotas of animals they predict will be harvested as a percentage each year. If they allocate 100 bulls to the east side for the season then is it really that big a deal that they issue 99 of them to permits and one to the auction?

Same with mule deer, how many east side mule deer quality permits are given out each year? I don't see how subtracting one from the total for a auction is going to make a gnats ass difference in your draw odds, and the additional revenue it produces can be used for purchasing more land etc.

Multi-season permits have increased significantly (at $180 a pop.) There are more landowner hunts. More raffles.  More special permit categories. All designed to raise funds from limited wildlife numbers. Do these help or hurt the average hunter?  Yes, one elk auction permit that generates $50000 seems like an OK deal but the long term trend is troubling, in my opinion.

[huntnphool]

3 days left....

It's dissapointing that one guy can have both the govenor and the raffle tag.... Gives us average guys that aren't rich even worse odds...

Why is it disappointing? The whole point of these tags is to sell them to the highest bidder. It will be 30+ years if ever before I could responsibly afford such a tag. If nobody else wants to top that persons bid then why shouldn't he have it?

It is disappointing because wildlife should belong to everyone in the state, not just the highest bidder. A key tenet of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation is that wildlife is a public resource, owned equally by everyone.

Each year it seems that a bit more of our wildlife is auctioned off, which runs counter to the ideal that everyone has the same opportunity.

While I understand the good that comes from the revenue that auctions generate, it is a slippery slope.

I don't see how its a slippery slope. WDFW set the quotas of animals they predict will be harvested as a percentage each year. If they allocate 100 bulls to the east side for the season then is it really that big a deal that they issue 99 of them to permits and one to the auction?

Same with mule deer, how many east side mule deer quality permits are given out each year? I don't see how subtracting one from the total for a auction is going to make a gnats ass difference in your draw odds, and the additional revenue it produces can be used for purchasing more land etc.

Multi-season permits have increased significantly (at $180 a pop.) There are more landowner hunts. More raffles.  More special permit categories. All designed to raise funds from limited wildlife numbers. Do these help or hurt the average hunter?  Yes, one elk auction permit that generates $50000 seems like an OK deal but the long term trend is troubling, in my opinion.

Oh I agree as a whole there are far too many given out and the multi season license is pure BS. That being said even if they reduced the overall number of permits each year to a more acceptable number, I still would not have a problem with them keeping one of each of the quality permits for the auctions.

[Skyvalhunter]

Yea I have no problem with the auctions as it is only 1 permit per species. Even a lottery for species is not bad but without checking I am sure they have not generated the funds from it since they passed the online gambling and stopped being able to sell tickets online. But to have the quantity of game animals suffer in order to raise funds because of their lack of money management is total BS. IMO