Knight Disc Extreme Peep Sight Question

[Sabotloader]

I just got this fp-legend-tk for my disc extreme.  The target knobs look handy to fine tune the sight in process, but not to handy for on the fly field adjustments.  Another option, just thought I would share.

Why did you mount it in front of the bolt? Normally - well most often they are mounted to the rear of the reciever...  You get a more a consistent sight picture that way... well I think that but that does not make it so...

[maddog]

That was my first option,but at least with the target knob version the bolt won't clear the sight.

[Sabotloader]

That was my first option,but at least with the target knob version the bolt won't clear the sight.

correct, because you have the new bolt handle, but ti only takes a bit of filing on the front bottedge of the windage drop and some aluma-black and you are right what you need to be... and I think you will like that setup better...

[maddog]

Looks like it would take roughly 1/8" of  material removed from the sight for the bolt to clear the sight.  This would include shortning the set screw 1/8" for the windage target knob.

[Sabotloader]

Looks like it would take roughly 1/8" of  material removed from the sight for the bolt to clear the sight.  This would include shortning the set screw 1/8" for the windage target knob.

If you were to do the trimming... Bore sight the gun in.  As the elevation moves the cross piece there becomes less material to remove.  Also as the bolt handle is lifted it moves away from the sight a tad bit...

You can see in the picture (bottom left picture) about the amount of material that needs to come off the bottom edge of the bar.

[fly-by]

I just finished mine and sighted it in this weekend.  With the .343 bead, it zeroes with the elevation scale about 1/4 of the way up.  This required grinding off a triangular shaped wedge of about 1/8" off the bottom of the windage post.  In my case it was not necessary to alter the windage knob set screw or threads

The Williams recommended .375 post would have made less clearancing necessary, but the .343 puts the bead pretty high within the sight picture of the front hood as it is. 

There is also a spot on the bolt where three angles come together to a point and snag on the sight.  I ground this down a little too.

Thanks for the responses.   

[Sabotloader]

I just finished mine and sighted it in this weekend.  With the .343 bead, it zeroes with the elevation scale about 1/4 of the way up.  This required grinding off a triangular shaped wedge of about 1/8" off the bottom of the windage post.  In my case it was not necessary to alter the windage knob set screw or threads

The Williams recommended .375 post would have made less clearancing necessary, but the .343 puts the bead pretty high within the sight picture of the front hood as it is. 

There is also a spot on the bolt where three angles come together to a point and snag on the sight.  I ground this down a little too.

Thanks for the responses.

Cool!   You got it all correct... the .343 is as high as you want to go in the hood - without the hood the .375 would have worked well - but I really like the site picture presented with the hood in place.

Hood.... one thing you might want to do - pull the hood off and squeeze the installation end of the hood a little bit to make the hood fit tighter.  I also use red loctite in the hood rails of the ramp to keep in in place.

[fly-by]

Yeah my hood fell off, luckily it was in the gun sock when I got home. 

What do you think about the aperture size?   Seems really big to me, though it's my first time using a peep sight.   Any thoughts on the merit adjustable aperture?

[Sabotloader]

Yeah my hood fell off, luckily it was in the gun sock when I got home. 

What do you think about the aperture size?   Seems really big to me, though it's my first time using a peep sight.   Any thoughts on the merit adjustable aperture?

for hunting the .091 Aperture is really very good, especially once you get some practice shooting a peep... Remember look through the peep and put the bead on what you want to shoot - do not worry about the peep...  You really have to let your eye and brain work.. the eye will center it for you but at first you will always try to make it better...  In low light I uncrew and remove the aperture and use the rear sight as a ghost ring - again let your eye work and trust it.

[usmc74]

They do make a "twilight" peep with a larger hole, and a brass ring to make it easier to see

[fly-by]

That may be worth checking out.  Since the whole sight picture is contained within the hood, it seems like a good setup would be sizing the aperture so the outline hood just fits in it.  In the case of this setup, just a little smaller than .091.   
However, after hunting with it this season I'm hesitiant to adjust anything.  Shot my first muzzy buck at maybe 30 yards and the larger aperture made it almost shotgun-like in terms of target acquisition.  Even though the hole looks huge when shooting paper at 100 yards, I suspect most of my shots will be 50 yards and in so no need to sacrifice field of view. Your brain really does seem to center everything subconsciously.
 

[Sabotloader]

That may be worth checking out.  Since the whole sight picture is contained within the hood, it seems like a good setup would be sizing the aperture so the outline hood just fits in it.  In the case of this setup, just a little smaller than .091. 

The problem here then becomes 'Light' in low light situations the smaller the apeture the more difficult it is to see through the apeture.  Williams does offer a Twi-light  apeture that helps a little bit.  Target shooting - use the smallest apeture you can. Hunting I think the .091 is good, even then in low I remove the apeture and use th erear sight as a ghost ring until I have enough light...

However, after hunting with it this season I'm hesitiant to adjust anything.  Shot my first muzzy buck at maybe 30 yards and the larger aperture made it almost shotgun-like in terms of target acquisition.  Even though the hole looks huge when shooting paper at 100 yards, I suspect most of my shots will be 50 yards and in so no need to sacrifice field of view. Your brain really does seem to center everything subconsciously.

that is really the key - let your mind do the working....