Knight Disc Extreme Peep Sight Question

[jbeaumont21]

Hey guys, can you share that part number for the williams fiber optic front bead? I broke mine tonight trying to install it so need to order a new one 

I was so excited, I finally received the hood that has been on back order for a month.  I filed down the grooves for the front bead and was gently tapping it into place and miss tapped and broke the fiber optic

Thanks in advance!
Jesse

Just sent you a PM with the numbers...

But remember you can just replace the fiber optic piping.  It is available from Williams - get ahold of Steve @ extension #226.

mike

Thanks Mike, unfortunately I also broke two of the metal ribs that hold the fiber optic piping in place so I am going to have to replace the whole thing.  Thanks for the PM.
Jesse

[Sabotloader]

I am going to have to replace the whole thing

Shucks!!

[Elk whack master]

How muck of a 10" target does this sight front bead cover at 100 yards? The stock front sight covers the whole target at 100 yards. Just seems kinda hard to shoot tight groups when the bead covers the whole thing. Also how bright is this sight in low light and dark timber, compaired to the factory size fiber optic?

[Sabotloader]

How muck of a 10" target does this sight front bead cover at 100 yards? The stock front sight covers the whole target at 100 yards. Just seems kinda hard to shoot tight groups when the bead covers the whole thing. Also how bright is this sight in low light and dark timber, compaired to the factory size fiber optic?

If I remember correctly, when I am shooting a clay pigeon @ 100 the front bead will just about cover the bird, which really is not a problem because I use a 6 o'clock hold.  the bird sits on top of the front sight - so I see what and where I am shooting.

[Elk whack master]

Thanks i might go to this sight. Ill try raising my sight up the ramp a little more and try you aiming style. the rear sight is already 1/8" past the final line on the ramp.

[Sabotloader]

Thanks i might go to this sight. Ill try raising my sight up the ramp a little more and try you aiming style. the rear sight is already 1/8" past the final line on the ramp.

OK now you are making me THINK which is not always good!  So the front sight, is it a stock Knight sight?  If so I do not think you can change just the front sight.  If it is a Williams ramp sight you can push out the old sight and install a shorter sight so you can move the ramp back down.

Here are some examples of the 6 o'clock hold.  I am using a peep with a hood on the front sight so my sight picture looks like something like 'H'

[Elk whack master]

original sights that came with my disc .50

[Sabotloader]

original sights that came with my disc .50

Bout the only thing you can do is switch the front sight out or put a shim under the rear sight ramp

Actually might try going to the Knight site and email your problem in to them - they might surprise you and offer a fix.  Just tell them with your factory sights you are at the top of the rear ramp and still do not have enough elevation.

[fly-by]

Hi-

First post here.  Just getting back into hunting after a long break and am new to muzzleloading.  Hopefully I can get out enough this year to give back some good information on this site. 

Got a KDE as my first rifle and am very happy with everything but the sights as I can't focus on 3 things at once.  Based on this thread I got a list of parts then  spoke with Steve at Williams to verify that it all made sense for my application.  Here is what I got:

FP Legend TK sight  #54251  - Recommended in the catalog for the Knight Disc (I assume Disc Extreme too?)

3/16 streamlined ramp  #1690

.343 bead     #70031

Open top hood   #56435

Attempting to mount it, the inside of the bar with the elevation graduations contacts the stock such that the whole sight is torqued to the right.  This is the case even with the elevation all the way up so the the elevation adjustment screw is barely engaged.  If I flip it around backwards, it clears the other side fine.  The top of the stock near the two mounting holes is 0.29" on the left hand side, and 0.23" on the right.  The problem would only get worse when trying to decrease elevation on the sight since the stock is rounded outward as you go down.  Any suggestions?  Did I order the wrong sight or is the stock out of spec?

Thanks in advance

[Sabotloader]

Fist i need to ask is the DISC Extreme you have a knew one or an older model.  The new ones have a different bolt handle yjsy can be a very slight problem.  Next which stock does it have?  And finally are you mounting the sight in the scope holes on the rear of the reciever?

If you noticed there are 3 hole in the rear portion of the reciever - you would use the front two holes.

I think this picture might show...

[HornHoarder]

Since we are on the subject of peep sights I've got a question. I currently have a williams peep on my muzzleloader, but am considering switching to a truglo ghost ring. The small diameter of the williams peep makes shooting in low light difficult.

The truglo ghost ring has a much bigger hole, but also has fiber optics on each side of the peep. So it seems like it combines the two types of sights. My buddy has one his gun, and seemed to be getting good accuracy. Anybody else use these sights? Feedback? Drawbacks?

[Sabotloader]

Since we are on the subject of peep sights I've got a question. I currently have a williams peep on my muzzleloader, but am considering switching to a truglo ghost ring. The small diameter of the williams peep makes shooting in low light difficult.

The truglo ghost ring has a much bigger hole, but also has fiber optics on each side of the peep. So it seems like it combines the two types of sights. My buddy has one his gun, and seemed to be getting good accuracy. Anybody else use these sights? Feedback? Drawbacks?

One thing you can do is just remove the peep aperture from the sight and make the Williams work as a ghost ring....

[fly-by]

Sabotloader-

Thanks for all the pictures and advice.  It's a new rifle with a laminated stock and newer bolt style per your photo.  I am using the holes you mention.  I think I will just clearance the stock a little.  It already has a couple of bumps and bruises....   

[Sabotloader]

Sabotloader-

Thanks for all the pictures and advice.  It's a new rifle with a laminated stock and newer bolt style per your photo.  I am using the holes you mention.  I think I will just clearance the stock a little.  It already has a couple of bumps and bruises....

That is another one of those things that may have changed... I do not know who might be building the new Knight laminate stocks and it muct be a little thicker than previous models.  I believe the composite have stayed the same for the most post.

[maddog]

I just got this fp-legend-tk for my disc extreme.  The target knobs look handy to fine tune the sight in process, but not to handy for on the fly field adjustments.  Another option, just thought I would share.