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list of gun bans
« on: December 27, 2012, 05:37:04 PM »
Here it is this Is a list of what is proposed in the gun ban.
http://americannationalmilitia.com/obamas-gun-ban-list-is-out/
Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.
 
Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.
 
Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
 
Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
 M1 Carbine,
 Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
 AR-15,
 Bushmaster XM15,
 Armalite M15,
 AR-10,
 Thompson 1927,
 Thompson M1;
 AK,
 AKM,
 AKS,
 AK-47,
 AK-74,
 ARM,
 MAK90,
 NHM 90,
 NHM 91,
 SA 85,
 SA 93,
 VEPR;
 Olympic Arms PCR;
 AR70,
 Calico Liberty ,
 Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
 Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
 Calico M-110,
 MAC-10,
 MAC-11, or MPA3,
 Olympic Arms OA,
 TEC-9,
 TEC-DC9,
 TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
 Uzi.
 Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
 Armscor 30 BG,
 SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
 Striker 12,
 Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
 A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
 (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
 (ii) a threaded barrel,
 (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
 (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
 Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
 A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
 (i) a second pistol grip,
 (ii) a threaded barrel,
 (iii) a barrel shroud or
 (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
 (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
 A semiautomatic shotgun with:
 (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
 (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
 (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
 (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
 Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
 Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”
 
Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.
 
The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.
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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 06:10:16 PM »
all the web sites I went to has pretty much the same list or exactly the same list.
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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 06:27:34 PM »
When this passes what are they going to expect you do do if you already own one of these firearms?
If you shoot the first one you will never get that true trophy.

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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 06:36:28 PM »
Register them.

Then wait for the next mass shooting tragedy they can exploit like a bunch of shameless whores. Ironically the gunman will yet again be a left-leaning liberal like Jared Lee Loughner.

Then the confiscation talks will begin. and for the sheeple who were dumb enough to register them, they'll know right where to start...

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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 06:42:50 PM »
If you purchased your rifle at a sporting good shop isn't it already registered?
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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 06:46:04 PM »
What if you bought one via a private party sale?

I wouldn't know since I don't own one. There isn't a sporting purpose and that's the only tenant of the Second Amendment.

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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 06:48:45 PM »
My MAK 90 is my favorite gun..  >:(

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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 07:00:50 PM »
If you purchased your rifle at a sporting good shop isn't it already registered?

No, I believe they have to keep the paper work for x amount of time but it isn't sent to any kind of agency other than a background check.

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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 07:08:02 PM »
some of that lingo there I beleive is too broad all guns could effectively be banned under this list an lanuage.
"When my bow falls, so shall the world. When me heart ceases to pump blood to my body, it will all come crashing down. As a hunter, we are bound by duty, nay, bound by our very soul to this world. When a hunter dies we feel it, we sense it, and the world trembles with sorrow. When I die, so shall the world, from the shock of loosing such a great part of ones soul." Ezekiel, Okeanos Hunter

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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 07:14:55 PM »
some of that lingo there I beleive is too broad all guns could effectively be banned under this list an lanuage.
Bingo! Winner winner chicken dinner.....  >:(

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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 07:16:24 PM »
10/22's would effectively be banned under this.. Can you imagine a 10/22 being a NFA item? WTF. I hope the NRA and other pro-gun organizations are able to defeat this B.S.

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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2012, 07:29:45 PM »
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”


The above is what gets me boiling mad! :bash: :bash: Some of them want all of our guns and if this passes they will have the power to do it.  This issue is not something that we should try to minimize or say "This will never pass in full" or "This wont happen we are American's they cant take away our 2nd amendment rights". Make no mistake about it, they are trying to disarm all of us! They may not take away the 2nd amendment but they will make it so no one is qualified to exercise it except the military and law enforcement.
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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 07:43:46 PM »
Teach, not being an ass about it as you say , would just naturally expect a gun that was purchased at a bona-fide "gunshop" to be registered.  what would you expect??
And yes they will expect you to register them, hence the  "duh"
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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2012, 07:50:28 PM »
And this "alleged" gun ban is expected to be enforced by the same government that couldn't keep track of a couple thousand firearms sent to Mexico? This same bureaucracy that tried to ban alcohol in the past and has been so successful at banning marijuana?
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Re: list of gun bans
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2012, 07:53:02 PM »
Teach, not being an ass about it as you say , would just naturally expect a gun that was purchased at a bona-fide "gunshop" to be registered.  what would you expect??
And yes they will expect you to register them, hence the  "duh"

Sorry about that this stuff gets under my skin more than anything I can think of.
If you shoot the first one you will never get that true trophy.

 


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