Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires

[MadHatter]

The moral of the story in this article is to push the climate change agenda... Four times in the story mention it, as if pounding saying the same thing over and over makes it more true...

If you don't believe climate change is real you should.  One doesn't have to be an Al Gore groupie to see the effects of climate change in subalpine and montane environments across the Rocky Mountains and Pacific NW.

Climates do change... But as far as a political agenda, there is no such phenomenon... The earth will regulate and change its climate as it has done for eons, the fact that we are so pompous to think we are the ones solely causing it is nieve at best.

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[Boss .300 winmag]

The moral of the story in this article is to push the climate change agenda... Four times in the story mention it, as if pounding saying the same thing over and over makes it more true...

If you don't believe climate change is real you should.  One doesn't have to be an Al Gore groupie to see the effects of climate change in subalpine and montane environments across the Rocky Mountains and Pacific NW.

JLS what proof/ data do you have?

Hopefully it's not all from AL GORES internets! 

[bobcat]

I don't think there's any reason to doubt that the climate is changing. I'm not sure why people dispute it. The only debate is whether it's man caused or natural.

[Heredoggydoggy]

The increase in the numbers of Bark Beetles is another benefit of the "Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires" BS.  Periodic Forest Fires kept the Beetles in check, burned along the ground, and promoted new healthy growth.  The Indians knew that a hundred years ago, but the white man, in his infinite wisdom, knew better.

[MadHatter]

The increase in the numbers of Bark Beetles is another benefit of the "Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires" BS.  Periodic Forest Fires kept the Beetles in check, burned along the ground, and promoted new healthy growth.  The Indians knew that a hundred years ago, but the white man, in his infinite wisdom, knew better.

I think this is one of our biggest threats anymore... No longer do fires burn out the forest.  The forest ecosystem is evolved to rely on fire, and we just put them out now and don't let them clean out the forest.  Its frustrating to see 1000 acres in the middle of NOWHERE catch and watch the government spend millions to put it out... My grandfather used to talk of how open the woods used to be, and how you could see 100+ yards even amongst the trees... Now, without a machete you cannot get 10' in most forests because of the undergrowth.  As much as it causes me great pain to say it, CA is starting to get it right... They let more fires burn now, and are even telling people that live in high fire danger areas to make defensible space, its not CALFIRE's job to protect you home if you choose to live in the middle of nowhere.  I have personally seen defensible space work... Guy had about 50-100yds around his house cleared of debris and shrubs... His house survived a pretty bad fire.  You could literally see where the fire parted and went around his house, burning the available fuels. 

[Heredoggydoggy]

Last year, just as the wildfires were getting started, my buddy and I were Grouse hunting along the Mission Ridge Trail, and I was astounded at all the dead fallen wood under the live trees.  I haven't been back up there since, but if the fires reached there, there's not a living thing left!

[Northway]

The moral of the story in this article is to push the climate change agenda... Four times in the story mention it, as if pounding saying the same thing over and over makes it more true...

If you don't believe climate change is real you should.  One doesn't have to be an Al Gore groupie to see the effects of climate change in subalpine and montane environments across the Rocky Mountains and Pacific NW.

I do believe that "climate change" is real, but it seems like a pointless argument. In my opinion we are pot-committed and there's no going back. Without drastic technological advances, pollution will continue to increase globally regardless of what americans do locally to combat it.