ACTION REQUEST: HB1588 "Universal Background Check" Legislation Must be Defeated

[huntrights]

Washington currently has strong background check requirements in place. Furthermore, it is already a federal felony for any private person to sell, trade, give, lend, rent or transfer a gun to a person they know or should have known is not legally allowed to own, purchase or possess a firearm. It should be noted that every year, tens of thousands of people fail to pass the background checks required for firearm purchases, yet only a fraction are prosecuted for providing false information. Before lawmakers begin creating more onerous rules and regulations, they should start enforcing the laws that are currently on the books.

You mean tens of thousands of people were denied their God given right to personal protection because we fell for yet another lie and don't have the courage to stand up for our fellow man.  (as long as it is not us, right?)

Tens of thousands of our fellow Americans are denied their right and not a peep out of most of us.  God help us.

If you don't think that number will encrease exponentially after this bill is passed, you are nuts.

Not only that, but the more house-holds that have firearms, the less phobia about guns there will be out there.  Less phobia equals more gun rights.  The opposite is also true.

We are better off offering legistlation to require every house-hold to own a gun....  and here we are arguing over how much freedom to take away.

It's just maddening that we have to fight our own side along with the left.

Write the House Judiciary Committee and your state Rep's respectfully asking them to oppose this bill.  That is the intent of this post.

Thanks.

[blackdog]

We need to get Republican Mike Hope to pull his support for the Bill.

[Wader]

This bill is simply Gun Registration.

Every firearm transfer will now document WHO is buying the firearm.  Even used guns that were previously undocumented, when sold, will now go into the system. Comprehensive gun registration will follow;  confiscation will follow that. 

The sad part is that the vast majority of gun owners don't care enough to lift a finger to oppose this.  A thread about this legislation should have 90% of the members here outraged and ready to show up and testify against this (after having gone door to door in their neighborhoods, urging everyone to show up as well).  People should take time off from work (using vacation if need be) to be there. Instead, there are responses from about a dozen people.  The word on this in Olympia is that this bill will pass easily.

Private firearm ownership will ultimately go quietly into the night.  The sheeple will cry about it and wonder how it happened.  Show them this thread and ask them where they were back in 2013...

[bigtex]

We need to get Republican Mike Hope to pull his support for the Bill.

Hope won't. Hope is a Seattle Police Officer/Detective. He has been a big "leader" in gun legislation, both penalty wise and in this bill. He has another bill which would do another type of registry.

[csaaphill]

ok incase this list is different i copyed and pasted this message and sent so one more sent.

[300UltraMagShooter]

This bill is simply Gun Registration.

Every firearm transfer will now document WHO is buying the firearm.  Even used guns that were previously undocumented, when sold, will now go into the system. Comprehensive gun registration will follow;  confiscation will follow that. 

The sad part is that the vast majority of gun owners don't care enough to lift a finger to oppose this.  A thread about this legislation should have 90% of the members here outraged and ready to show up and testify against this (after having gone door to door in their neighborhoods, urging everyone to show up as well).  People should take time off from work (using vacation if need be) to be there. Instead, there are responses from about a dozen people.  The word on this in Olympia is that this bill will pass easily.

Private firearm ownership will ultimately go quietly into the night.  The sheeple will cry about it and wonder how it happened.  Show them this thread and ask them where they were back in 2013...

You got that right.  Some of us don't deserve the world that is being created for us.  Many people will actually end up being killed because of their inaction.  However, many will deserve exactly what they get.

I actually get sick to my stomach thinking about the decline of our once great country. 

It's all over it looks like.  America was the worlds last best hope.  Now we are looking more and more just like the rest of the world.

[csaaphill]

sheit after much research on Progressive socialism and such were doomed. I fear the clock on this has eccelerated and either rovolt or wish we had. doesnt have to be the first poor sucker we can organise then its a group not the individule.

[huntrights]

Ok you guys.  Remember the power of positive thinking. 

We just need to recognize where things are going in the wrong direction and push back.  You will have a much better chance of being successful at pushing back if you change your mind set to believe it can be done.

It can be done, and we will do it.

[blackdog]

There are enough pro-gun democrats in the House that I don't see this passing on the floor.

[pianoman9701]

Dear Judiciary Committee Members,

I strongly oppose this bill. WA already has an effective and extensive background check system in place and this bill will do absolutely nothing to further protect our citizens from criminals with guns. It will only further infringe on our state and federal Constitutional rights. It should be scrapped in committee. Please flush this bill now. Thank you for your attention to my request.

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Most Sincerely,
John W

[csaaphill]

I've sent my letters just saying.

[csaaphill]

reply I got so far
 I could not agree more and I am adamantly opposed to HB 1588.  That's also why I co-sponsored HB 1371 the Firearms Freedom Act as part of the Freedom Agenda (see "Freedom Agenda WA" on Facebook). 

 

This bill, if enacted, will exempt all firearms manufactured in WA State from federal regulation and deal with anticipated new federal regulations, as well.  The Washington bill will even be more robust than the much touted Wyoming bill.  The history of our bill in previous sessions has been to exempt firearms manufactured in Washington that stays in Washington.

 

But it also, in Section 5(4) nullifies any federal law adopted after January 1, 2013 that bans or attempts registration of firearms.  And finally, Section 12(4) specifically prevents any restrictions placed upon law-abiding citizens in a state of emergency.  Those of us who remember the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina recall the door-to-door confiscation of firearms and the sometimes disastrous results.

 

The bill number is House Bill 1371 and can be accessed on your personal computer here http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1371&year=2013

 

I am aware that there could be a slew of gun control bills coming and I am prepared to argue against them on the floor of the House.  I am depending upon the informed citizenry, however, to let the body of the Legislature know how they feel about gun control and, hopefully, be available to testify at committee hearings.  It was just a couple weeks ago that a Democrat legislator withdrew a gun control bill after receiving a blizzard of messages of objection from concerned citizens.

 

Thank you very much for your letter and please consider receiving my regular updates while the Legislature is in session (see below).  You can also follow me by checking in on his legislative web site at: http://www.leg.wa.gov/house/representatives/Pages/shea.aspx

 

Warm Regards,

 

Rep. Shea

[bigtex]

This bill, if enacted, will exempt all firearms manufactured in WA State from federal regulation and deal with anticipated new federal regulations, as well.  The Washington bill will even be more robust than the much touted Wyoming bill.  The history of our bill in previous sessions has been to exempt firearms manufactured in Washington that stays in Washington.

There are only a couple "ma and pa" type firearm manufacturers in WA. None of the "big boys" are here.

[Elkaholic daWg]

This bill, if enacted, will exempt all firearms manufactured in WA State from federal regulation and deal with anticipated new federal regulations, as well.  The Washington bill will even be more robust than the much touted Wyoming bill.  The history of our bill in previous sessions has been to exempt firearms manufactured in Washington that stays in Washington.

There are only a couple "ma and pa" type firearm manufacturers in WA. None of the "big boys" are here.

 

 So what about......But it also, in Section 5(4) nullifies any federal law adopted after January 1, 2013 that bans or attempts registration of firearms.  And finally, Section 12(4) specifically prevents any restrictions placed upon law-abiding citizens in a state of emergency.  Those of us who remember the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina recall the door-to-door confiscation of firearms and the sometimes disastrous results.


 Scott, Kristiansen(twice) and Shea have all replied positively

[blackdog]

Just for the record, during Katrina it was the State Guard and local police that were confiscating firearms and abusing civil liberties.