Proud or Ashamed

[Smossy]

Many people who buy a Discover pass don't have a WILD ID.

Also, the Discover pass isn't just for parking. You need it if you're just driving on state land as well.

Its just 2nd nature for me to always have my fishing/harvesting license.
I forget its not something everyone has. Just more things I pay money for! 
Thanks for the reminder lol

[Smossy]

pay it, hope the funds go to where it's really needed, and pretend to be proud for now

In all honesty Im pretty sure they do. But unless I see money handed from one organization to another Ill never REALLY do. Ill just keep my self convinced that its for a good cause.

[skywalker253]

Many people who buy a Discover pass don't have a WILD ID.

Also, the Discover pass isn't just for parking. You need it if you're just driving on state land as well.

Then charge the tree hugging hikers a "Hiking Pass" and create a "Hiking ID#". Attach the Hiking ID# to their Discover Pass. With our luck, the state has already thought of this and will likely create several NEW passes/permits recreationists have to purchase to be legal. I voted "proud" because of Bobcats points he made. It also makes you feel good about doing the right thing etc. I have never had much of an issue paying for increased hunting fee's, passes, etc. I look at it like, I use the state parks, land, roads, etc. But I have never volunteered my labor etc. to give back. This is my way of giving back.

[Smossy]

Many people who buy a Discover pass don't have a WILD ID.

Also, the Discover pass isn't just for parking. You need it if you're just driving on state land as well.

Then charge the tree hugging hikers a "Hiking Pass" and create a "Hiking ID#". Attach the Hiking ID# to their Discover Pass. With our luck, the state has already thought of this and will likely create several NEW passes/permits recreationists have to purchase to be legal. I voted "proud" because of Bobcats points he made. It also makes you feel good about doing the right thing etc. I have never had much of an issue paying for increased hunting fee's, passes, etc. I look at it like, I use the state parks, land, roads, etc. But I have never volunteered my labor etc. to give back. This is my way of giving back.

Yeah I understand, but, Thats exactly HOW all these new things get added. Just like you said "Oh its free? Ok cool lets charge more and more."
Cmon now thats no way to solve any problem.

I think a good resolution after some debate on here.

Discover pass goes via Social security number, Has no "car limit" its an ON HAND pass, Just like a fishing or hunting license, and Its laminated!

[Smossy]

Many people who buy a Discover pass don't have a WILD ID.

Also, the Discover pass isn't just for parking. You need it if you're just driving on state land as well.

Then charge the tree hugging hikers a "Hiking Pass" and create a "Hiking ID#". Attach the Hiking ID# to their Discover Pass. With our luck, the state has already thought of this and will likely create several NEW passes/permits recreationists have to purchase to be legal. I voted "proud" because of Bobcats points he made. It also makes you feel good about doing the right thing etc. I have never had much of an issue paying for increased hunting fee's, passes, etc. I look at it like, I use the state parks, land, roads, etc. But I have never volunteered my labor etc. to give back. This is my way of giving back.

But wait, Im a tree hugger because I hike? I dont get that, Im sensing alittle hostility.
We drive to specific hiking trails because washington has some great view/hiking opportunities. It put my mind at ease to all the other BS that goes on in the world.
Guess Im a tree hugger guys.

Oh yeah, me and my girl plan on volunteering time once a month to help clean up / renovate trails. That must mean were nature rapists or something?

[Smossy]

NATURE-RAPISTS!

[Curly]

You should be ashamed of yourself. 

I was hoping that enough hunters would hold out and not give in long enough that the DP would be deemed a failure and some changes would have to be made.

But it looks like enough of you have bought them so the politicians think it is a success.   

So, with that said, I can't really blame anyone for buying the pass now, as it seems like it's here to stay.  I might have to be ashamed of myself too and break down and buy the damn thing too. 

[Smossy]

You should be ashamed of yourself. 

I was hoping that enough hunters would hold out and not give in long enough that the DP would be deemed a failure and some changes would have to be made.

But it looks like enough of you have bought them so the politicians think it is a success.   

So, with that said, I can't really blame anyone for buying the pass now, as it seems like it's here to stay.  I might have to be ashamed of myself too and break down and buy the damn thing too. 

Nope your wrong, Theyre still not meating quota that they expected, and they never will. Discover pass it "too new" and the first few years leading after are basically "trial and error" kind of thing. So we can refuse and complain via email. Not sure where that would be directed to though.

[Special T]

I won't vote in the poll because I'm not ashamed, or proud, of buying my Discover pass last year. I'm not quite as adamantly against it as many of you seem to be.
Agreed

I think it's a fair deal for those who frequently use the state parks. No problem with that, they require a lot of upkeep and maintenance, and it only makes sense for those using the parks to pay for that.
This is a pay for play state  I agree
I also like that non-hunters/fishers who use WDFW boat launches and/or Wildlife Areas now have to pay something for that use, as we have been doing all along.
They were supposed to purchase a WDFW pass befroe the DP.
As for DNR lands, I think it's fair enough for people using campgrounds or other developed recreational areas, to pay something for that use as well.
 
So the only real problem I have is I don't feel it should be required on ALL DNR lands.

The other issue is that it can only be used with two vehicles. So the pass I bought, if I put the license plate from my Bronco and my truck on the pass, the wife and I cannot use her car to take the family to a state park.

I paid for it, I should be able to use it for any vehicle I own.

I am proud that i havne't purchased one. the state wanted to alter my actions so i did.  I make it a point to tell the DMV that i refuse to be shaken down for parks "donations" on the 9 license plates i own. I spend more time at tmy arcehy club and spend more time visiting friends and family instead of "consuming" precious state resources. I vote with my wallet every chance i get because i think its the most powerful vote i have. 

[6x6in6]

I've had one since the git-go.  Not very proud of it. 
For me, the cost of the DP is a lot cheaper than the cost of buying certified weed free hay for the horses.  Given the amount of time I spend on DNR or WDFW ground.
So, that was my option.  DP or buy hay with pretty little bale strings and piece of paper to satisfy the Forest Circus.

[bobcat]

If I were to "vote with my wallet" I would have had to cancel my elk hunting trip this year. But instead, I spent $35 and camped out in my camp trailer for a week on DNR land. The pass may have been $35, but the camping was free! I would have paid $25 minimum per night, if I had stayed in a campground. I'd say I got my money's worth. (and then some).   

[Smossy]

If I were to "vote with my wallet" I would have had to cancel my elk hunting trip this year. But instead, I spent $35 and camped out in my camp trailer for a week on DNR land. The pass may have been $35, but the camping was free! I would have paid $25 minimum per night, if I had stayed in a campground. I'd say I got my money's worth. (and then some).   

Weld said brother. EXACTLY my thoughts. Me and my lady spend sooo much time on "Public land" that requires a discover pass that It would be pure stupidity to NOT have one. We forgot our pass the last hiking trips because of using different vehicles. at 10 dollers a day. We basically just payed for another discover pass without even buying one.

[6x6in6]

If I were to "vote with my wallet" I would have had to cancel my elk hunting trip this year. But instead, I spent $35 and camped out in my camp trailer for a week on DNR land. The pass may have been $35, but the camping was free! I would have paid $25 minimum per night, if I had stayed in a campground. I'd say I got my money's worth. (and then some).   

In a similar type of way, that's how I look at it.
The spring and summer months camping/visiting DNR lands, while avoiding NF lands, pays for itself.
The hunting season then becomes a freebie.

Or at least that's I how convince myself to be "proud".   

[Dhoey07]

The problem i have with the discover pass is the issue of paying to access public land.  So if i convince myself that state land is not "public" but privately owned.......

[Special T]

The issue is the $ is being taken from one group to pay for anothers...I would find it hard to argue my point if it was split 3 ways.