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WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« on: February 13, 2013, 11:17:12 AM »

Senate Bill 5737 would ban the sale of “assault weapons” in WA. Here are the terms you need to know:

(20) "Assault weapon" means:
(a) Any semiautomatic pistol or semiautomatic or pump-action rifle or shotgun that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine, with a capacity to accept more then ten rounds of ammunition and that also possesses any of the following:
(i) If the firearm is a rifle or shotgun, a pistol grip located rear of the trigger;
(ii) If the firearm is a rifle or shotgun, a stock in any configuration, including but not limited to a thumbhole stock, a folding stock or a telescoping stock, that allows the bearer of the firearm to grasp the firearm with the trigger hand such that the web of the trigger hand, between the thumb and forefinger, can be placed below the top of the external portion of the trigger during firing;
(iii) If the firearm is a pistol, a shoulder stock of any type or configuration, including but not limited to a folding stock or a telescoping stock;
(iv) A barrel shroud;
(v) A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator;
(vi) Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the hand that is not the trigger hand;
(b) Any pistol that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine at any location outside of the pistol grip;
(c) Any semiautomatic pistol, any semiautomatic, center-fire rifle, or any shotgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition;
(d) Any firearm with a threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppression or noise suppression device;
(e) Any shotgun capable of accepting a detachable magazine;
(f) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder;
(g) Any conversion kit or other combination of parts from which an assault weapon can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of any person.
(21) "Detachable magazine" means a magazine, the function of which is to deliver one or more ammunition cartridges into the firing chamber, which can be removed from the firearm without the use of any tool, including a bullet or ammunition cartridge.
(22) "Barrel shroud" means a covering, other than a slide, that is attached to, or that substantially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm and that allows the bearer of the firearm to hold the barrel with the nonshooting hand while firing the firearm, without burning that hand, except that the term does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel that does not substantially or completely encircle the barrel.
(23) "Muzzle brake" means a device attached to the muzzle of a weapon that utilizes escaping gas to reduce recoil.
(24) "Muzzle compensator" means a device attached to the muzzle of a weapon that utilizes escaping gas to control muzzle movement.
(25) "Conversion kit" means any part or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a firearm into an assault weapon.

http://dlr.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/default.aspx?Bill=5737&year=2013

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 11:21:29 AM »
They sure are putting the full court press on taking away our rights aren't they!
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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 11:22:36 AM »
so pretty much all firearms are gonna be illegal.   what kind of idiot wrote this? 

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 11:22:46 AM »
So now pump action rifles and shotguns are assault weapons too?   :yike:

Wow!

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 11:23:32 AM »
So now pump action rifles and shotguns are assault weapons too?   :yike:

Wow!

get it right even bolt actions with thumbhole or pistol grip stocks

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 11:28:50 AM »
So now pump action rifles and shotguns are assault weapons too?   :yike:

Wow!
Bolt action shotguns that accept detachable mags, rifles with muzzlebreaks, I didn't see an exemption for .22s with tube mags greater than 10 rds.

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 11:32:45 AM »
I don't think the State realizes the ramifications of a bill like this.  What will they do when hunting license revenue plummets because our guns are illegal?
If it was easy, everybody would be doing it.

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 11:38:48 AM »
Actually very few rifles and shotguns we use for hunting would be affected by this.

22 rifles are exempt because it specifically says "centerfire" rifle.

This is where most guns wouldn't meet the definition:

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that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine, with a capacity to accept more then ten rounds of ammunition

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 11:47:40 AM »
how many people hunt with a rifle that has a thumb hole stock, or muzzle break??? ALOT!!!! that would be considered illegal. everybody will be affected by this in one way or another.

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 11:48:36 AM »
Actually very few rifles and shotguns we use for hunting would be affected by this.

22 rifles are exempt because it specifically says "centerfire" rifle.

This is where most guns wouldn't meet the definition:

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that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine, with a capacity to accept more then ten rounds of ammunition


There are a lot of semiauto’s and pumps that take a detachable mag (if it can take a mag, it can take a mag capable of holding more than 10 rounds) and have thumbhole stock or muzzle brake.  And a Savage Model 220F – assault weapon, really?

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2013, 11:57:29 AM »
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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2013, 12:01:12 PM »
Actually very few rifles and shotguns we use for hunting would be affected by this.

22 rifles are exempt because it specifically says "centerfire" rifle.

This is where most guns wouldn't meet the definition:

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that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine, with a capacity to accept more then ten rounds of ammunition


There are a lot of semiauto’s and pumps that take a detachable mag (if it can take a mag, it can take a mag capable of holding more than 10 rounds) and have thumbhole stock or muzzle brake.  And a Savage Model 220F – assault weapon, really?

Sorry I was thinking more of semi auto shotguns and pump shoguns when I wrote that. I should have specified that most shotguns wouldn't qualify as an assault weapon.

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 12:01:27 PM »
My email to Don Benton:

"Dear Senator Benton,

This is one of the most poorly written of the numerous attempts to infringe on our 2nd Amendment rights. The authors of this bill obviously have little or no experience with firearms to request such sweeping regulations, many of which will make common hunting and self-protection firearms, and magazines illegal.

As a constituent, a veteran, a Master Hunter for the state of WA, WA Hunter Education instructor, and as a law abiding citizen of your district who wishes to continue to hunt and protect himself and his family, I strongly urge you to oppose this overreaching legislation.

Like many of the pieces of legislation which have popped up since the terrible massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, this bill does nothing to protect our public, but indeed, leaves many without the protections guaranteed to us under our US Constitution and section 24 of the WA State Constitution. For your fellow senators to try and exploit this tragedy by forwarding their own agenda through this and other bills is reprehensible and underhanded. I hope you'll share my sentiments with them personally.

Thank you for your continued support of my individual rights, Don. You can depend on my support as long as you're my senator.
Most Sincerely,
John W.
Vancouver"
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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 12:18:07 PM »
I wrote to the committee chair, Mike Padden. The senate justice committee has republican a majority so maybe this bill won't leave committee.

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Re: WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 01:02:19 PM »
 :bumpin:

Spread the word on this guys. This is a big one
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