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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2013, 11:01:06 AM »
It is not against the law to give advice legal or otherwise.

It is against the law to give legal representation as a lawyer and not be one.


 You can represent yourself in court.  If you say your a lawyer and then go to court and represent a client and say your a lawyer.. i think that's what your saying right? is against the law?
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In court on a forum in public it is all the same, you can not say you are a lawyer and not be one.

It is not against the law to give advise legal or otherwise.

People need to be responsible on their own, if you want real legal advice go to a lawyer not in a public forum.
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2013, 11:23:45 AM »
What I am trying say is (take this how you want) that a lay person giving legal advice to another lay person and that person whom you are giving advice may detrimentally rely (promissory estoppel) upon your statement, meaning justice requires enforcement, action induced, a promise made etc.

Its up to you how you want to give advice.


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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2013, 11:27:35 AM »
The giving of “advise” definitely falls under the protection of the First Amendment.

If you ask me if you should take John to smalls claims court and I say yes you should I have given you legal advise but I am not a lawyer. I have not broken any law.
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #63 on: April 03, 2013, 11:44:54 AM »
 :yeah:
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #64 on: April 03, 2013, 11:48:59 AM »
The giving of “advise” definitely falls under the protection of the First Amendment.

If you ask me if you should take John to smalls claims court and I say yes you should I have given you legal advise but I am not a lawyer. I have not broken any law.

That's not legal advice.

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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #65 on: April 03, 2013, 12:09:42 PM »
please tell me what qualifies as legal advice.   
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #66 on: April 03, 2013, 12:23:49 PM »
"legal advice" and "legal information" is often blurred only a lawyer may give actual legal advice, a non-lawyer may recite legal information, again this is not against the law.
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #67 on: April 03, 2013, 03:20:07 PM »
"legal advice" and "legal information" is often blurred only a lawyer may give actual legal advice, a non-lawyer may recite legal information, again this is not against the law.
:yeah:
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2013, 03:36:12 PM »
"legal advice" and "legal information" is often blurred only a lawyer may give actual legal advice, a non-lawyer may recite legal information, again this is not against the law.
:yeah:


Only until you rely upon the wrong "legal information."

Yes I agree with the 1st amendment, but "advice from a lawyer" is not a freedom of speech question and answer, its actually call privilege, work product.

A lawyer may only give actual legal advice to their "client" an no one else. Legal info. is something a lay person reads from a book, etc. and interprets. There is nothing to be blurred between the two. 


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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2013, 12:36:21 AM »
What a bunch of anal two bit replies on this thread.
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2013, 02:14:32 AM »
i understand oi just quoted someone else ... my thing is it isn't illegal... at all ...  if i told you it was legal to kill someone and you went and did it you think i would have any repercussions... i think not... you'd be the moron that killed them... i would def have to see the Law that says it's illegal to give "legal" advice.  Police and Paralegals provide advice all the time and opinons and they never go to jail.  So..... yeah.... def not illegal. :beatdeadhorse:

It is illegal to give a person legal advice when you are a non-lawyer, per Washington State Bar Rules. Paralegals are under the supervisory duty of the managing attorney and yes they can give legal advice. Police officers cannot offer legal advice, they usually state a particular law you violated and tell you to talk to the prosecutor because they are deferring any representation they made. Second, I wouldn't tell anyone to kill someone even if you think its a joke and they are a joker for doing it. You could get nailed for conspiracy and accomplice liability. And Yes I am a Lawyer. JM

Thank you for the CORRECT info.

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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2013, 01:38:43 PM »
i am still confused a tad bit..... what are the "codes" that show what your talking about?  :o
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2013, 02:04:56 PM »
i am still confused a tad bit..... what are the "codes" that show what your talking about?  :o

They are talking about the Revised Code of Washington. According to the web site below "The Revised Code of Washington (RCW) is the compilation of all permanent laws now in force. It is a collection of Session Laws (enacted by the Legislature, and signed by the Governor, or enacted via the initiative process), arranged by topic, with amendments added and repealed laws removed. It does not include temporary laws such as appropriations acts. The official version of the RCW is published by the Statute Law Committee and the Code Reviser."

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/

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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2013, 02:16:04 PM »
i am still confused a tad bit..... what are the "codes" that show what your talking about?  :o

They are talking about the Revised Code of Washington. According to the web site below "The Revised Code of Washington (RCW) is the compilation of all permanent laws now in force. It is a collection of Session Laws (enacted by the Legislature, and signed by the Governor, or enacted via the initiative process), arranged by topic, with amendments added and repealed laws removed. It does not include temporary laws such as appropriations acts. The official version of the RCW is published by the Statute Law Committee and the Code Reviser."

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/

I think what irishvox is asking is for someone to pull out of the RCW's the specific code that says it is against the law to give legal advice. I do not think you will find it.

Those that say it is against the law can you back it up with at least a link?
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Re: Concealed Carry While Waterfowl Hunting
« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2013, 02:21:41 PM »
i am still confused a tad bit..... what are the "codes" that show what your talking about?  :o

They are talking about the Revised Code of Washington. According to the web site below "The Revised Code of Washington (RCW) is the compilation of all permanent laws now in force. It is a collection of Session Laws (enacted by the Legislature, and signed by the Governor, or enacted via the initiative process), arranged by topic, with amendments added and repealed laws removed. It does not include temporary laws such as appropriations acts. The official version of the RCW is published by the Statute Law Committee and the Code Reviser."

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/

I think what irishvox is asking is for you to pull out of the RCW's the specific code that says it is against the law to give legal advice. I do not think you will find it.

Here is one of them...if you use that link I posted, this specific code is listed under the Title 9 section.

RCW 9.41.060
Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.

Here is the direct link as well.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060

 


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