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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2013, 10:31:08 PM »
I think you missed the point

I'd be steaming pissed if some state official discredited me right to my face

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2013, 10:35:27 PM »
I think you missed the point

I'd be steaming pissed if some state official discredited me right to my face

Maybe so. I wasn't going to make any judgements on that aspect, since I wasn't there and don't really know what was said, and by who.

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2013, 10:37:47 PM »
I can't imagine someone making that little tidbit up  :rolleyes:

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2013, 10:39:47 PM »
I can't imagine someone making that little tidbit up  :rolleyes:

If my dog had gotten hung up like that I will roll the dice!!

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2013, 11:02:16 PM »
I can't imagine someone making that little tidbit up  :rolleyes:

If my dog had gotten hung up like that I will roll the dice!!

You would have used your expert opinion and determined it was a coyote.

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Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2013, 11:03:17 PM »
Sorry for your dog!! Beautiful and brave friend you have,  I hope he makes a full recovery.  How long or what will it take for them to open their eyes and do something??  Of course they won't until a human gets ripped to pieces......  Sad story! 

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2013, 11:18:43 PM »
Animals being animals... I believe it's called nature?

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Re: Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2013, 11:43:09 PM »
Animals being animals... I believe it's called nature?
Not when it's on your front porch...   >:(

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2013, 11:48:07 PM »
This is sad, but not something that can be blamed on the WDFW. And I'm not sure why the state should be paying the vet bill.

Just like if a dog got attacked by a deer, eaten by a cougar, peoples cats get eaten all the time by coyotes.

I'd have to think really hard about not putting the dog down after that  :'(

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2013, 12:38:06 AM »
Folks, at the recent Colville meeting the WDFW put it all in perspective, they explained that there is a lot of passion on both sides of the wolf issue and that there is a lot of money.

HELLO.... Hunters, ranchers, and rural residents are not pouring in lots of money for wolves, no, the WDFW has sold out to the wolf lovers who are pouring in the money for wolves. They fell victim to the dollars and the disney wolf story the same way IDFG and MFWP did.

My guess is that in the end, this wolf money will dry up and hunters dollars will dissipate when the herds have been reduced which is exactly how it has played out in ID & MT, the WDFW and the people of WA will be left with a landscape full of wolves and no more big easy dollars for WDFW.

Folks, we are all watching 100 years of responsible wildlife management being thrown right out the window.
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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2013, 01:02:28 AM »
WDFW is responsible for this and here is why I say this:

 - WDFW insisted on a wolf plan requiring 15 BP's. Idaho and MT approved plans for only 10 BP's, does anyone really think WA has 50% more habitat?
 - After getting their 15 BP plan approved by the commission WDFW has failed to even make a reasonable attempt to verify known wolf packs.
 - WDFW only has had 2 or 3 trappers to trap wolves to collar in the entire state, anyone can do the math on sq miles of habitat to see this failure.
 - A qualified trapper in Colville has provided WDFW with trailcam photos of wolves, they won't hire him because he doesn't have a college degree.
 - Local citizens and hunters have provided enough sightings to keep 2 dozen trappers busy confirming wolves that are already here.
 - There's enough wolves in WA to delist, people could protect themselves and animals if we had an agency that would confirm existing wolves.
 - WDFW wants to analyze wolf stories in Olympia, this must be to look for a way to discredit every story. Agents are allowed to identify any other predation in the field. Managers in Olympia will be using the info gathered by the agents at the location. This is hogwash, the people should demand and end to this lunacy.
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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2013, 06:34:38 AM »
Hope the old girl is doing better.  :sry:

Wife sucks, have to see if its a wolf attack.  :bash: :bash: :bash:

Boss300- Auto correct?

A case of WDFW story spinning and streamlining paperwork.  I wonder about their motivations.

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2013, 06:55:40 AM »
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing this guy doesn't have fencing on his property?

Terrible as it is, you're just asking for it if you don't keep your dog(s) within a fenced enclosure. It's not that expensive to drive some metal posts into the ground and zip tie wire mesh to it. Doubling up with an invisible fence unit to keep the dog from getting any ideas if getting beyond that adds to the security.

Even without wolves that would be common sense given the other predators and animals that can generally cause harm to a dog that we have in this state.

I remember hearing stories about people's dogs running off into the night after coyotes and never coming back here on the west side. I still just shake my head at the Pollyanna mindset of some.

This isn't a pro wolf statement, I just think the owner was unwise, especially given current conditions.

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2013, 07:09:43 AM »
A cougar  :bash: really! There is NO way that you would NOT be able to tell the difference between a cougar attack and a wolf attack. The dog would have claw marks on it for sure not to mention the bight marks would be  different from the two jaw patterns. It really makes me made when these wildlife agents think that everyone not in their field are idiots.

No Kidding.   I've been dealing with it for years.   

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2013, 07:09:57 AM »
WDFW is responsible for this and here is why I say this:

 - WDFW insisted on a wolf plan requiring 15 BP's. Idaho and MT approved plans for only 10 BP's, does anyone really think WA has 50% more habitat?
 - After getting their 15 BP plan approved by the commission WDFW has failed to even make a reasonable attempt to verify known wolf packs.
 - WDFW only has had 2 or 3 trappers to trap wolves to collar in the entire state, anyone can do the math on sq miles of habitat to see this failure.
 - A qualified trapper in Colville has provided WDFW with trailcam photos of wolves, they won't hire him because he doesn't have a college degree.
 - Local citizens and hunters have provided enough sightings to keep 2 dozen trappers busy confirming wolves that are already here.
 - There's enough wolves in WA to delist, people could protect themselves and animals if we had an agency that would confirm existing wolves.
 - WDFW wants to analyze wolf stories in Olympia, this must be to look for a way to discredit every story. Agents are allowed to identify any other predation in the field. Managers in Olympia will be using the info gathered by the agents at the location. This is hogwash, the people should demand and end to this lunacy.
Bearpaw is right!!! All the agents are doing now is documenting the demise of washingtons wildlife

 


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