Recovering game from the ONP

[Max the dog]

Just out of curiosity, if one was to legally shoot a elk outside the ONP and it managed to get inside the boundary, would you be allowed to recover it legally? My guess is you are supposed to call the state and ask some beurocrat for permmision, then deal federal inquisition while your meat spoils.
Thank in advance

[Bob33]

Without permission you cannot legally retrieve game from anywhere it would be illegal to hunt it.

[washelkhunter]

I would just go and get it.

[Max the dog]

To me it's kind of like the ethical debate of releasing a severely bleeding fish.  I am all for staying legal, but I wouldn't sleep well at night knowing an animal was just left to waste.  Hopefully I won't have to actually make the call. Just topic for debate.

[Bob33]

You asked if it was legal. It is not. Whether or not you decide to do it is an ethical decision that you will have to make based on the circumstances.

[bod]

Washingtonelkhunter you are a genius

[snowpack]

The park has a no retrieve policy.  So it goes to waste or you get cited if you go after it.

[pianoman9701]

Washingtonelkhunter you are a genius

 I know him. Let's just say he's working toward his genius status!

[pianoman9701]

The park has a no retrieve policy.  So it goes to waste or you get cited if you go after it.

And, if you waste it, you're also breaking the laws of WA. I would make a phone call to the local warden. I certainly wouldn't just throw up my hands and give up with an elk on the ground 100 yards past the boundary. my 

[JLS]

The park has a no retrieve policy.  So it goes to waste or you get cited if you go after it.

And, if you waste it, you're also breaking the laws of WA. I would make a phone call to the local warden. I certainly wouldn't just throw up my hands and give up with an elk on the ground 100 yards past the boundary. my 

It is not a violation of the waste laws because you have no legal avenue to retrieve the animal.  Same as if you  shoot it and it jumps the fence onto property where the landowner won't allow retrieval.  You have no legal means of retrieving it, so unless it can be shown that you acted recklessly there is no waste violation.

[pianoman9701]

The park has a no retrieve policy.  So it goes to waste or you get cited if you go after it.

And, if you waste it, you're also breaking the laws of WA. I would make a phone call to the local warden. I certainly wouldn't just throw up my hands and give up with an elk on the ground 100 yards past the boundary. my 

It is not a violation of the waste laws because you have no legal avenue to retrieve the animal.  Same as if you  shoot it and it jumps the fence onto property where the landowner won't allow retrieval.  You have no legal means of retrieving it, so unless it can be shown that you acted recklessly there is no waste violation.

OK, well I'm going to call, regardless. Thanks for the clarification.

[JLS]

The park has a no retrieve policy.  So it goes to waste or you get cited if you go after it.

And, if you waste it, you're also breaking the laws of WA. I would make a phone call to the local warden. I certainly wouldn't just throw up my hands and give up with an elk on the ground 100 yards past the boundary. my 

It is not a violation of the waste laws because you have no legal avenue to retrieve the animal.  Same as if you  shoot it and it jumps the fence onto property where the landowner won't allow retrieval.  You have no legal means of retrieving it, so unless it can be shown that you acted recklessly there is no waste violation.

OK, well I'm going to call, regardless. Thanks for the clarification.

I'd call too.

[lokidog]

I used to duck/goose hunt near a refuge and was told I could enter the refuge to retrieve a bird as long as I did not shoot at it in the refuge.  I could use my dog to retrieve as well, but could not "harass" other birds out of the refuge.

I guess Parks would be different.  Kind of stupid though.   

[snowpack]

I've heard it is because you would be possessing an animal within the park.  http://www.nps.gov/olym/parkmgmt/upload/2012Compendium-2.pdf
The rangers used to come out and escort, but now people tell me they say they aren't allowed to.  But they have a new superintendent, so might give it a try.

[bigtex]

The park has a no retrieve policy.  So it goes to waste or you get cited if you go after it.

And, if you waste it, you're also breaking the laws of WA. I would make a phone call to the local warden. I certainly wouldn't just throw up my hands and give up with an elk on the ground 100 yards past the boundary. my 

Because of the jurisdiction of Olympic (and Rainier) WDFW Officers (and other state/local LEOs) do not have authority within the park, state courts don't as well. The individual would be violating federal law for recovering the animal but would NOT be liable for wastage.