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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2013, 01:11:49 PM »
Good news....People stay vigilant and keep e-mailing / writing your elected officials.

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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2013, 01:15:05 PM »
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”


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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2013, 01:55:53 PM »
Seems to be the who's--who of the anti gun crowd.

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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2013, 02:33:23 PM »
Far out, man. Di-Fi and Hill can suck on that for a while.
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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2013, 03:07:02 PM »
murray and cantwell both need a deluge of disgust mail......( hate mail ).  They  are completely willing to throw out the constitution in order to follow party agenda.  They have no problem tramping half the voters in this state....even if its 1/3,  they should have a considerable problem neglecting the voters.  I wish them a brief future career......they have to go, and they need to hear why from us now, while its all fresh in their tiny little heads. 

We already know how they will vote in the near future ......time to stop being nice.   :twocents:

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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2013, 03:24:16 PM »
The problem is finding a viable candidate to oppose them.  Dino is a serial loser and Cantwell ran practically unopposed last election.  We have to do better next time around.

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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2013, 03:35:37 PM »

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In this case they made it without our support. It will be our job to get rid of the two WA Senators who are gun control freaks. Come election time we need to hammer them on their 2nd Amendment voting record.
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If I might be so bold as to change what you suggest and say we need to hammer them on their entire voting record not just their 2nd Amendment record. Maybe start saving your nickels and dimes to take out an ad in the paper or start preparing your letters to the editor highlighting how they voted to give up the sovereignty of the United States while a US Senator. Just be sure of your facts and figures so as to avoid any possibility of a slander charge
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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2013, 04:23:59 PM »
The problem is finding a viable candidate to oppose them.  Dino is a serial loser and Cantwell ran practically unopposed last election.  We have to do better next time around.

I think probably the best way to win that seat is with a different Democrat or an Independent/Libertarian running for that position.  Especially if the runner was gay and takes the pro-legalization of MJ to the fed level.  I just can't see puketropolis voting ANY R as Senator. 

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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2013, 02:56:07 AM »
What's the Odds Obama could, or would use Executive orders on this?
True though good message it sends, but really close though.
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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2013, 06:09:23 AM »
What's the Odds Obama could, or would use Executive orders on this?
True though good message it sends, but really close though.

Signing onto a treaty takes a 2/3s approval by the senate and is then ratified by the President.
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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2013, 07:32:12 AM »
The problem is finding a viable candidate to oppose them.  Dino is a serial loser and Cantwell ran practically unopposed last election.  We have to do better next time around.

Easy there, Turbo.  I've met Dino in person a few times. He is a very decent person and a respectable businessman and family man.

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Re: Senate Votes to Stop US From Joining UN Arms Trade Treaty
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2013, 06:01:54 PM »
This doesn't look good, Whats the white house doing now?

http://www.nssfblog.com/nssf-objects-to-u-s-government-abandoning-position-that-u-n-treaty-must-be-based-on-international-consensus-2/

 The National Shooting Sports Foundation today strongly objected to the last-minute reversal on the U.S. government position regarding the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. In the closing hours of negotiations on Thursday, March 28, the government abandoned its previous insistence that the treaty be approved only through achieving “consensus” of all the member states. Requiring consensus had been the United States position going back to earlier administrations.

At the end of the session, a U.S. government spokesperson told reporters “It’s important to the United States and the defense of our interests to insist on consensus. But every state in this process has always been conscious of the fact that if consensus is not reached in this process, that there are other ways to adopt this treaty, including via a vote of the General Assembly.” The spokesperson went on to say that the United States would vote “yes” on the treaty in the General Assembly, regardless of the positions of other member states. By abandoning the requirement for consensus the United States is assuring passage of the treaty by the United Nations.

“This abrupt about-face on the long-standing United States requirement for ‘consensus’ illustrates that the Obama Administration wants a sweeping U.N. arms control treaty,” said Lawrence Keane, NSSF senior vice president and general counsel. “We are troubled by the timing of the Obama Administration’s decision to abandon consensus on the eve of the Senate debate on pending gun control measures. The United Nations treaty would have a broad impact on the U.S. firearms industry and its base of consumers in the U.S.”

Industry analysts have identified three major areas of concern with the treaty text. The treaty clearly covers trade in civilian firearms, not just military arms and equipment. It will have a major impact on the importation of firearms to the United States, which is a substantial source for the consumer market. And it will impose new regulations on the “transit” of firearms, the term defined so broadly that it would cover all everything from container ships stopping at ports to individuals who are traveling internationally with a single firearm for hunting or other sporting purposes.

“We hope that the Members of the U.S. Senate are closely watching the White House abandon its principles and promises in the rush to ramrod this flawed treaty into effect. Not only will they later be asked to ratify this attack on our constitution and sovereignty, but they will also be lavished with new promises from the administration in its drive to push a broad gun control agenda through the U.S. Senate when it returns from recess. They would be right to question those promises strongly,” concluded Keane

 


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