Am I the only one thinking this is really not good?

[MadHatter]

I as someone who open carries daily, pretty much every where I go... Call it stupid, call it whatever you want... Its not your life, your gun and has really nothing to do with anyone else but me... I am not sure why there is this HUGE divide in the gun community between CC and OC.  We all carry, for our own reasons... The manner in which we carry should not matter in the least. 

I think that everyone that decides to carry in a purse is stupid, I think ankle carry is moronic, I think that IWB is going to get you killed... I also think that CC is just for losers that need an ego boost, or want to hide the extension to their inadequacies.  It sounds just as stupid when you say the same thing between OC... This divide is what allows us to have rights take away.  Someone who never OC's decides, well I don't OC, so it wont have any effect on me... Or how about the I don't have any AR15s so I really don't care if they ban them.  Pretty soon, when I have lost my right to OC, my 30rd mags and all of my AR15's and they will come for your CC gun, and your hunting rifles next...

Why is it that we cannot all get on the same side here? Its not a rhetorical question... I am truly asking people here, on this thread that are calling it dumb (or stupid or )what the disconnect is with picking out others choices to give up because you might not agree with them, and then trying to shame others in a group such as this not to do it...

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[pianoman9701]

 

[Austrian Hunter]

I as someone who open carries daily, pretty much every where I go... Call it stupid, call it whatever you want... Its not your life, your gun and has really nothing to do with anyone else but me... I am not sure why there is this HUGE divide in the gun community between CC and OC.  We all carry, for our own reasons... The manner in which we carry should not matter in the least. 

I think that everyone that decides to carry in a purse is stupid, I think ankle carry is moronic, I think that IWB is going to get you killed... I also think that CC is just for losers that need an ego boost, or want to hide the extension to their inadequacies.  It sounds just as stupid when you say the same thing between OC... This divide is what allows us to have rights take away.  Someone who never OC's decides, well I don't OC, so it wont have any effect on me... Or how about the I don't have any AR15s so I really don't care if they ban them.  Pretty soon, when I have lost my right to OC, my 30rd mags and all of my AR15's and they will come for your CC gun, and your hunting rifles next...

Why is it that we cannot all get on the same side here? Its not a rhetorical question... I am truly asking people here, on this thread that are calling it dumb (or stupid or )what the disconnect is with picking out others choices to give up because you might not agree with them, and then trying to shame others in a group such as this not to do it...

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  Well put Sir!!! 

[elk247]

 

[smdave]

Good Rant. 

[h20hunter]

Very well put indeed. I've been vocal about my disproval of OC. However, the cases I always disagree with are the butt clowns that never OC on a regular basis, only when they are trying to grab a headline. That is the biggest problem I have....those that OC ONLY when it is going to get them in the spot light.

[bobcat]

For those who don't like when others open carry- perhaps more people would conceal if a permit was not required to do so.

If a person has the right to carry a gun, it should be legal to carry it however you choose, concealed or not.

No permit should be required for something that is a guaranteed right by the 2nd Amendment. That, to me, is the issue.

[Woodchuck]

 

[pianoman9701]

For those who don't like when others open carry- perhaps more people would conceal if a permit was not required to do so.

If a person has the right to carry a gun, it should be legal to carry it however you choose, concealed or not.

No permit should be required for something that is a guaranteed right by the 2nd Amendment. That, to me, is the issue.

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[MadHatter]

Very well put indeed. I've been vocal about my disproval of OC. However, the cases I always disagree with are the butt clowns that never OC on a regular basis, only when they are trying to grab a headline. That is the biggest problem I have....those that OC ONLY when it is going to get them in the spot light.

And I disagree, I think that if you are going to OC to grab headlines, at least its getting the message out there.  Is it "extreme" way to get headlines? Sure... Does it work, and actually help get the message they are trying to send out? You bet... As someone who organized, an OC picnic to point out that Kitsap county was out of line with state law I did numerous media interviews we got the attention, we got the county to fall in line.  I have also used the same tactic to get several cities to do the same, and help them strike their laws.  Most cities didn't want the same negative press the county got, so they quietly changed their statutes to fall into line.

Did the anti-gin crowd freak out, yes.  But compared to the support, their voice was not really heard.  Just like any protest, the idea is to draw attention to a problem, be it open carrying or self immolation, there is a problem that needs to be rectified.

But there again, you are drawing a line in the sand.  You can agree with X but not Y.  So when I say, well I agree with taking hunting rifles away.  I mean, you really don't need them... Ever heard of a grocery store? Why would anyone need to hunt?  But I don't agree with taking people's AR's because they are for personal defense.  Its exactly the same.  You can agree with someone who OC's everyday, but not someone who is using it as a protest tool, or wanting to draw attention to the fact that something is legal.  This is what I don't get... In this day and age, we all need to get on board to protect our rights, or we will lose them.  As Aesop said in Four Oxen and a Lion United we stand, divided we fall...  We keep going the way we are as a whole gun community, we will fall... And we will have no one to blame but ourselves...

I will agree with you on one point though... There are people out there that give OC a bad name, but there are also people that give hunting or driving or life in general a bad name.  You deal with them one of two ways, you denounce them as stupid or you help to educate them and get them on the right path.  You will never do away with people something a bad name... You deal with them and move on...

[h20hunter]

Not gonna arge those points Mad.....I've got no problem with a OC picnic. Sounds like a nice time. I guess the only headlines I notice that get me fired up and refer to those as butt clowns are like the ones I saw a bit back....AR's across their backs walking around some little downtown. They are not demonstrating anything other than "look at ME". Now, an armed picnic to demonstate the "look at US, we are just like you, families, jobs, and all that" I've got no problem.

[MadHatter]

Not gonna arge those points Mad.....I've got no problem with a OC picnic. Sounds like a nice time. I guess the only headlines I notice that get me fired up and refer to those as butt clowns are like the ones I saw a bit back....AR's across their backs walking around some little downtown. They are not demonstrating anything other than "look at ME". Now, an armed picnic to demonstate the "look at US, we are just like you, families, jobs, and all that" I've got no problem.

***Apology retracted*** I did read your statement right... And disagree wholeheartedly... Someone should be able to carry whatever firearm the want, how they want and where they want (within the law).

[cohoho]

I can understand where your coming from for sure and do appreciate it.  My original post was in regards to two separate folks of in an environment - Kent station just before a t-bird game.  one dude was carrying a baby and was loud and brash.  Both walking and acting as it were scripted - look at me.  That is what triggered the comment, anyone else think this is stupid?  There is a difference for sure.  I would never think it would wrong in the rig right elements, but in and around large groups of alcohol induced people and alcohol estblishments. I still call it stupid. 

[Holg3107]

Cohoho, I'm pretty much with you the whole way on this topic. The majority of people that I have seen OC have been doing it strictly to show off. I have no problem with people concealed carrying, I truly have no idea what the point of open carrying in public is. To me it just puts a target on you. I'm not saying take away the rights of people to open carry I just think its stupid 90% of the time.

[bobcat]

How is it stupid? What if it's summertime and I'm wearing jeans and a t shirt? How do I conceal my 44 mag with the 6 inch barrel?