Long Range Bow Tuning

[Smossy]

Yea, it will be full page.  If for some reasons it doesn't work I will scan my copy and email it to you if you want.

I got it printed out, It was just confusing for a second. I understand it now.

[jechicdr]

I kind of like the 15, 25, 35, 45, 55, etc yard increments though I probably won't make the change since I'm used to my current pin setup.  When you use your rangefinder, anything in the 50's (between 50 and 59), you could use your 55 yard pin with some reasonable accuracy as opposed to having a 50 yard pin for mid 40's to mid 50's and 60 yard pin for mid 50's to mid 60's.  Of course it also makes sense to me to to hold few inches high if the distance is "high"er than my pin and low if the distance is "low"er than my pin.  For example, 45 is lower than 50, so hold my 50 yard pin lower (heart) and 55 is higher so hold my pin higher (middle distance on elk, upper third on deer).  Know your arrow drop to fine tune that at the various distances.  The archery program I have lets you "practice" your shots using your current bow setup to get the number of inches drop if target is at one distance and you aim dead on with a certain pin.

[elk247]

Or split the difference between the pins.  might be more accurate than holding high/low. The hardest shot for me is when they are 15 and closer. Ive heard you can just look down your arrow spline but i need to try this on the range. I'll probably look lime a dummy shooting at a target from 10 yards, but thats better than missing a bull that close.

[PA BEN]

I just got back into shooting my bow after 7 years of not bow hunting. I can’t believe all the so-called stuff you have to have to shoot tight groups at any given yard. IE; levels on your sites. I saw one site that had a glow green dot that had a smaller black dot you had to center while your pin was on the target before each shot. By the time you look at all this stuff your shot on your game animal is gone. I just wonder now I killed deer w/a re-curve and longbow no sites and how I killed my first buck with a compound bow using fingers at 30 yds? Anchor point and practice, practice, practice. I would go for walks in the woods no ranger finders and judge yardage and stump shoot w/judo points. I never used a ranger finder until the late 90’s and then only from a tree stand. We can make anything harder than it really is. Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to bust anybody’s balls here, just saying what works for me.

[elk247]

I agree in my 17 years of bowhunting I have never used a rangefinder. I realize they work and can help hunters. I have nothing bad to say about them. I just feel that with all the practice i do before season i am able to judge the distance accuratly and consistantly.

[Smossy]

I just got back into shooting my bow after 7 years of not bow hunting. I can’t believe all the so-called stuff you have to have to shoot tight groups at any given yard. IE; levels on your sites. I saw one site that had a glow green dot that had a smaller black dot you had to center while your pin was on the target before each shot. By the time you look at all this stuff your shot on your game animal is gone. I just wonder now I killed deer w/a re-curve and longbow no sites and how I killed my first buck with a compound bow using fingers at 30 yds? Anchor point and practice, practice, practice. I would go for walks in the woods no ranger finders and judge yardage and stump shoot w/judo points. I never used a ranger finder until the late 90’s and then only from a tree stand. We can make anything harder than it really is. Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to bust anybody’s balls here, just saying what works for me.

That would be the IQ bow sight. Its def way over priced. My bow sight does have a level. When your practicing with stuff like that it actually does not take longer like you said it might, It becomes second nature to draw, put your pin where you want it, fire away.
The IQ would take alittle longer though to find your POI because you would have to find the dot to dot.

[jechicdr]

Or split the difference between the pins.  might be more accurate than holding high/low. The hardest shot for me is when they are 15 and closer. Ive heard you can just look down your arrow spline but i need to try this on the range. I'll probably look lime a dummy shooting at a target from 10 yards, but thats better than missing a bull that close.

The archery program also helps with the close shots too.  Let me see if I can find the chart I made, then just taped it to my rangefinder.  The take home for my setup for close range was anything between 7 and 25 yards, just have to use my 20 yard pin.  Anything between 2 and 7 yards, should be able to fit my whole site on the vitals and hit a deer or elk.  If it is under 2 yards, I'll be shipping my pants.

80           81           82           83           84           85           86           87           88           89
80           80 +2   80 +4   80 +7   80 +9   80 +11   80 +14   80 +16   80 +19   80 +22

70           71           72           73           74           75           76           77           78           79
70           70 +2   70 +4   70 +6   70 +8   70 +10   80   -8   80   -6   80   -4   80   -2

60           61           62           63           64           65           66           67           68           69
60           60 +2   60 +3   60 +5   60 +6   60 +8   70   -7   70   -5   70   -3   70   -2

50           51           52           53           54           55           56           57           58           59
50           50 +1   50 +2   50 +4   50 +5   50 +7   60   -5   60   -4   60   -3   60   -1

40           41           42           43           44           45           46           47           48           49
40           40 +1   40 +2   40 +3   40 +4   40 +5   50   -4   50   -3   50   -2   50   -1

30           31           32           33           34           35           36           37           38           39
30           30 +1   30 +1   30 +2   30 +3   30 +4   40   -3   40   -2   40   -2   40   -1

20           21           22           23           24           25           26           27           28           29
20           20           20 +1   20 +1   20 +1   20 +2   30   -2   30   -2   30   -1   30   -1

10           11           12           13           14           15           16           17           18           19
20           20           20   -1   20   -1   20   -1   20   -1   20   -1   20   -1   20           20

0           1           2           3           4           5           6           7           8           9
80 +4   80 +2   80           60           50           40           30           20 +1       20           20

[Smossy]

Or split the difference between the pins.  might be more accurate than holding high/low. The hardest shot for me is when they are 15 and closer. Ive heard you can just look down your arrow spline but i need to try this on the range. I'll probably look lime a dummy shooting at a target from 10 yards, but thats better than missing a bull that close.

The archery program also helps with the close shots too.  Let me see if I can find the chart I made, then just taped it to my rangefinder.  The take home for my setup for close range was anything between 7 and 25 yards, just have to use my 20 yard pin.  Anything between 2 and 7 yards, should be able to fit my whole site on the vitals and hit a deer or elk.  If it is under 2 yards, I'll be shipping my pants.

80           81           82           83           84           85           86           87           88           89
80           80 +2   80 +4   80 +7   80 +9   80 +11   80 +14   80 +16   80 +19   80 +22

70           71           72           73           74           75           76           77           78           79
70           70 +2   70 +4   70 +6   70 +8   70 +10   80   -8   80   -6   80   -4   80   -2

60           61           62           63           64           65           66           67           68           69
60           60 +2   60 +3   60 +5   60 +6   60 +8   70   -7   70   -5   70   -3   70   -2

50           51           52           53           54           55           56           57           58           59
50           50 +1   50 +2   50 +4   50 +5   50 +7   60   -5   60   -4   60   -3   60   -1

40           41           42           43           44           45           46           47           48           49
40           40 +1   40 +2   40 +3   40 +4   40 +5   50   -4   50   -3   50   -2   50   -1

30           31           32           33           34           35           36           37           38           39
30           30 +1   30 +1   30 +2   30 +3   30 +4   40   -3   40   -2   40   -2   40   -1

20           21           22           23           24           25           26           27           28           29
20           20           20 +1   20 +1   20 +1   20 +2   30   -2   30   -2   30   -1   30   -1

10           11           12           13           14           15           16           17           18           19
20           20           20   -1   20   -1   20   -1   20   -1   20   -1   20   -1   20           20

0           1           2           3           4           5           6           7           8           9
80 +4   80 +2   80           60           50           40           30           20 +1       20           20

Are these variables for which pin will be good for X range?

[Smossy]

I know that with my 20 yard pin, there is virtually next to no drop. Its a straight shot right from the bow, I've used my 20 yard pin all the way into 5-10 yards with almost no change. After the arrow starts to compete with gravity though the further it gets from my bow there's a decent change.

[elk247]

Seems logical. But field test that theroy, i shot a bull a 10 yards with my 20 yard pin and it shot high of the vitals but below the spine. Luckly it clipped a bit of lung. Maybe i was shaking like a leaf? I tried to controll my breathing but i was excited for sure.

[Smossy]

Seems logical. But field test that theroy, i shot a bull a 10 yards with my 20 yard pin and it shot high of the vitals but below the spine. Luckly it clipped a bit of lung. Maybe i was shaking like a leaf? I tried to controll my breathing but i was excited for sure.

lol Cant say for sure. Im sure I woulda done the same or missed completely Never experienced the rush of a hunt yet. Just lots of practice.

[RadSav]

Seems logical. But field test that theroy, i shot a bull a 10 yards with my 20 yard pin and it shot high of the vitals but below the spine. Luckly it clipped a bit of lung. Maybe i was shaking like a leaf? I tried to controll my breathing but i was excited for sure.

For the average archer using his/her 20 yard pin you will shoot high at 15 yards but low at 10 yards.  I just shot two turkeys over with Bearpaw using a 15 yard pin.  First bird was at six yards and I aimed 2.5" high and hit perfect.  The second bird was at eight yards and I aimed 1.5" high and hit a little low.  Both birds got a second arrow at 35 yards for insurance.  I did not have the time to adjust the single pin sight so I used the same 15 yard pin and held 18" high.  Both shots missed the spine a little to the left, but both took the arrow perfect lung height.

I do use a rather low anchor point compared to most bowhunters.  So that might not be exact for everyone, but it should be darned close for most.

[elk247]

Right on! Congrats on the birds RadSav. Looks like Dale has been kicking butt on the birds so far.

[RadSav]

Right on! Congrats on the birds RadSav. Looks like Dale has been kicking butt on the birds so far.

It's almost not even fair for the turkeys Bearpaw has got them so dialed in over there.  Battleready took two birds as well.  I could have taken three before the first days lunch if it would have been legal.  Darned bugger came in and started humping my first dead tom.  Stuck my head out of the blind and said, "We'll have none of that around here!"

[elk247]