Toxic broadheads...

[dreamingbig]

Will they be considered legal in Wa?

http://www.bowhunter.com/introducing-the-flying-arrow-toxic-broadhead.html

[RadSav]

If you are crazy enough to use them WDFW is crazy enough to let you.  Not barbed, more than two blades, not mechanical.

[dreamingbig]

I am not planning too however they are holding up amazingly in some of the testing that I have seen.  Interesting concept.

[724wd]

see more debate here...

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,118561.0.html

[dreamingbig]

Oops, I missed that.  Thanks!

[NW-GSP]

Oops, I missed that.  Thanks!

You have to remember that people on here are quick to talk bad about products they have not seen firsthand and are Internet experts!

[724wd]

Oops, I missed that.  Thanks!

You have to remember that people on here are quick to talk bad about products they have not seen firsthand and are Internet experts!

you also have to remember there is nothing new under the sun and this concept has been around for more than 30 years and failed each time 

[small Dog]

God I hope not, you might as well shoot a Deer, Elk, or anyother animal tied to a tree or go to the zoo and kill your animal.  Its called ( hunting ) for a reason. If our going to take the skill level out of shooting, then why practice shooting. All you need to do is just stick the animal.  Your not killing the animal, your tranqulizing the animal and you walk up to it and then kill while it is helpless you kill it.   You want to give the ANTIHUNTERS amunition to come at use, then thats the way to do it.   I love hunting and I don't want to see it go down that road.

[724wd]

God I hope not, you might as well shoot a Deer, Elk, or anyother animal tied to a tree or go to the zoo and kill your animal.  Its called ( hunting ) for a reason. If our going to take the skill level out of shooting, then why practice shooting. All you need to do is just stick the animal.  Your not killing the animal, your tranqulizing the animal and you walk up to it and then kill while it is helpless you kill it.   You want to give the ANTIHUNTERS amunition to come at use, then thats the way to do it.   I love hunting and I don't want to see it go down that road.

huh?  wha?  i sense you think this is a poison delivery device?  just a circular broadhead.  rest assured plenty of practice will still be necessary.  no tranquilizing here... 

[small Dog]

I apologize, I should have watched the video.  I was thinking of the tranqualizer type head that was going around about 30 yrs ago. After watching this video, it looks like something that I would like to try.
Like I said, I do apologize for not watching the video.

[sakoshooter]

Years ago Browning came out the the Serpentine similar to this broadhead. I still have one that I shoot for fun. It was terrible for hunting because it easily bogged down in hair and fat. It also didn't slice bone very well either. The marketing ploy back then had a guy shoot it thru an apple and other similar items. Great looking hole if you've got a watermellon tag.
I'd have to guess that this one will have similar results.

[RadSav]

I apologize, I should have watched the video.  I was thinking of the tranqualizer type head that was going around about 30 yrs ago. After watching this video, it looks like something that I would like to try.
Like I said, I do apologize for not watching the video.

Yeah, I figured you were thinking of the POD.  Easy enough to get Toxic and Poison mixed up.  Honest mistake IMO.  Little known fact is that heavy use by American hunters in Africa using the POD led to making archery hunting illegal in many areas of the continent for a time.  During that time an archer was considered a poacher which was a penalty of death.  A series of testing modern archery equipment was conducted by S/Ranger D. Van Eyssen and Duke Savora and approved by the Rhodesian government in 1981.  These tests conducted were known as the Chipinda Pools tests.  Shortly after the testing sport Bowhunting was reinstated in those areas.  Final words in D. Van Eyssen's Chipinda Pools report, Bow Hunting will rekindle the true spirit of HUNTING which seems to have taken second place to "Make the Book", "Rowland Ward", etc. etc., bigger scopes and more powerful guns.

Sometimes gimmicks just don't do it any better than the tried and true products.  And sometimes they threaten our existence as bowhunters.

[RadSav]

Years ago Browning came out the the Serpentine similar to this broadhead. I still have one that I shoot for fun. It was terrible for hunting because it easily bogged down in hair and fat. It also didn't slice bone very well either. The marketing ploy back then had a guy shoot it thru an apple and other similar items. Great looking hole if you've got a watermellon tag.
I'd have to guess that this one will have similar results.

Yes sir    And the Serpentine was a vastly superior product to the more recent Razor Ring and SaberMaxx.

[RadSav]

Oops, I missed that.  Thanks!

You have to remember that people on here are quick to talk bad about products they have not seen firsthand and are Internet experts!

You also have to remember that some of us have seen this product firsthand, tested similar products and understand the laws of physics, the behavior of blood platelets and the relationship between the broadhead and it's target.

[JPhelps]

Oops, I missed that.  Thanks!

You have to remember that people on here are quick to talk bad about products they have not seen firsthand and are Internet experts!

You also have to remember that some of us have seen this product firsthand, tested similar products and understand the laws of physics, the behavior of blood platelets and the relationship between the broadhead and it's target.

My exact point!  They keep talking about cutting surface.  This may just be my simple brain thinking but cutting surface doesn't necessarily matter. As long as a blade goes through the vein or artery the Broadhead has done its job and cut.  I don't care if I cut it 4 times because I'm shooting a cloverleaf, the wound can only bleed so much.