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Quote from: bearpaw on May 10, 2013, 12:23:17 PMIt is common knowledge that enviro whacko's like to masquerade as hunters to discredit and persuade hunting conversations. I wonder if acnewman55 even knows the name of the hunter in his/her profile photo. I know it's scary when people disagree with you.
It is common knowledge that enviro whacko's like to masquerade as hunters to discredit and persuade hunting conversations. I wonder if acnewman55 even knows the name of the hunter in his/her profile photo.
Quote from: AspenBud on May 10, 2013, 01:01:42 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:51:09 PMQuote from: AspenBud on May 10, 2013, 12:44:35 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:35:16 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:27:36 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:20:54 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done. Didn't the recent 10 day season in MN result in 110 wolves down? Think I read that on the previous thread. Never heard of 110 people winning the lottery in 10 days. You are either being naive or you are just ignorant. Lets look at the west here where the land and accessibility dynamic is FAR different. Look at the number of tags in ID and MT that were issued last year and then look at the harvest, then get back with me.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy don't you post the number of tags in ID and MT vs the harvest and enlighten all of us, instead of continuing with the soap-box conjecture?If it's your argument, make it yourself. 43,000 wolf tags were sold in ID in 2012 and 375 wolves were killed or trapped. That's less than 1% success rate (since doing the math might not mean me making the argument myself). Trapping success was much better than traditional hunting too, so the numbers are further skewed. http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/03/rockybarker/idaho_hunters_and_trappers_kill_375_wolvesSent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat doesn't bode well for the argument that they are a threat to humans. If hunters, people who actively try to conceal themselves so they can shoot wolves, have that hard a time finding them...Always a silver lining for a liberal. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNot really, it was Obama who signed the document that delisted them. Obama had no idea, it was a rider. It was probably on page 1699 in the footnotes. or on the TELEPROMPTER!!! LMFAOSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:51:09 PMQuote from: AspenBud on May 10, 2013, 12:44:35 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:35:16 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:27:36 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:20:54 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done. Didn't the recent 10 day season in MN result in 110 wolves down? Think I read that on the previous thread. Never heard of 110 people winning the lottery in 10 days. You are either being naive or you are just ignorant. Lets look at the west here where the land and accessibility dynamic is FAR different. Look at the number of tags in ID and MT that were issued last year and then look at the harvest, then get back with me.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy don't you post the number of tags in ID and MT vs the harvest and enlighten all of us, instead of continuing with the soap-box conjecture?If it's your argument, make it yourself. 43,000 wolf tags were sold in ID in 2012 and 375 wolves were killed or trapped. That's less than 1% success rate (since doing the math might not mean me making the argument myself). Trapping success was much better than traditional hunting too, so the numbers are further skewed. http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/03/rockybarker/idaho_hunters_and_trappers_kill_375_wolvesSent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat doesn't bode well for the argument that they are a threat to humans. If hunters, people who actively try to conceal themselves so they can shoot wolves, have that hard a time finding them...Always a silver lining for a liberal. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNot really, it was Obama who signed the document that delisted them.
Quote from: AspenBud on May 10, 2013, 12:44:35 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:35:16 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:27:36 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:20:54 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done. Didn't the recent 10 day season in MN result in 110 wolves down? Think I read that on the previous thread. Never heard of 110 people winning the lottery in 10 days. You are either being naive or you are just ignorant. Lets look at the west here where the land and accessibility dynamic is FAR different. Look at the number of tags in ID and MT that were issued last year and then look at the harvest, then get back with me.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy don't you post the number of tags in ID and MT vs the harvest and enlighten all of us, instead of continuing with the soap-box conjecture?If it's your argument, make it yourself. 43,000 wolf tags were sold in ID in 2012 and 375 wolves were killed or trapped. That's less than 1% success rate (since doing the math might not mean me making the argument myself). Trapping success was much better than traditional hunting too, so the numbers are further skewed. http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/03/rockybarker/idaho_hunters_and_trappers_kill_375_wolvesSent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat doesn't bode well for the argument that they are a threat to humans. If hunters, people who actively try to conceal themselves so they can shoot wolves, have that hard a time finding them...Always a silver lining for a liberal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:35:16 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:27:36 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:20:54 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done. Didn't the recent 10 day season in MN result in 110 wolves down? Think I read that on the previous thread. Never heard of 110 people winning the lottery in 10 days. You are either being naive or you are just ignorant. Lets look at the west here where the land and accessibility dynamic is FAR different. Look at the number of tags in ID and MT that were issued last year and then look at the harvest, then get back with me.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy don't you post the number of tags in ID and MT vs the harvest and enlighten all of us, instead of continuing with the soap-box conjecture?If it's your argument, make it yourself. 43,000 wolf tags were sold in ID in 2012 and 375 wolves were killed or trapped. That's less than 1% success rate (since doing the math might not mean me making the argument myself). Trapping success was much better than traditional hunting too, so the numbers are further skewed. http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/03/rockybarker/idaho_hunters_and_trappers_kill_375_wolvesSent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat doesn't bode well for the argument that they are a threat to humans. If hunters, people who actively try to conceal themselves so they can shoot wolves, have that hard a time finding them...
Quote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:27:36 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:20:54 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done. Didn't the recent 10 day season in MN result in 110 wolves down? Think I read that on the previous thread. Never heard of 110 people winning the lottery in 10 days. You are either being naive or you are just ignorant. Lets look at the west here where the land and accessibility dynamic is FAR different. Look at the number of tags in ID and MT that were issued last year and then look at the harvest, then get back with me.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy don't you post the number of tags in ID and MT vs the harvest and enlighten all of us, instead of continuing with the soap-box conjecture?If it's your argument, make it yourself. 43,000 wolf tags were sold in ID in 2012 and 375 wolves were killed or trapped. That's less than 1% success rate (since doing the math might not mean me making the argument myself). Trapping success was much better than traditional hunting too, so the numbers are further skewed. http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/03/rockybarker/idaho_hunters_and_trappers_kill_375_wolvesSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 12:20:54 PMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done. Didn't the recent 10 day season in MN result in 110 wolves down? Think I read that on the previous thread. Never heard of 110 people winning the lottery in 10 days. You are either being naive or you are just ignorant. Lets look at the west here where the land and accessibility dynamic is FAR different. Look at the number of tags in ID and MT that were issued last year and then look at the harvest, then get back with me.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy don't you post the number of tags in ID and MT vs the harvest and enlighten all of us, instead of continuing with the soap-box conjecture?If it's your argument, make it yourself.
Quote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done. Didn't the recent 10 day season in MN result in 110 wolves down? Think I read that on the previous thread. Never heard of 110 people winning the lottery in 10 days. You are either being naive or you are just ignorant. Lets look at the west here where the land and accessibility dynamic is FAR different. Look at the number of tags in ID and MT that were issued last year and then look at the harvest, then get back with me.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done. Didn't the recent 10 day season in MN result in 110 wolves down? Think I read that on the previous thread. Never heard of 110 people winning the lottery in 10 days.
Quote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 09:44:09 AMQuote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!What you also fail to understand is that hunting and trapping alone will never come close to managing wolf populations. Killing them from planes and choppers or poisoning them is really the only way to effectively get it done (along with hunting and trapping of course). You have about a zero chance of walking out into the backcountry of MT, WY or ID and killing a wolf. The odds of success are like winning the lottery because wolves are smart. I have buddies in ID that have hunted them for 10 days straight and they knew where they were too, but couldn't get it done.
Quote from: slim9300 on May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 AMI was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.' You continue to make all sorts of assumptions about my beliefs and environmental views based on my opinion on wolves. I'm all for more protected wilderness. I can't see why any hunter would be against that, as long as costs to the taxpayer aren't out of proportion. I can think of many worse things we spend our tax dollars on.QuoteWolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.Mostly because the government has done a *censored* poor job of managing them. Didn't we just spend some $70,000+ to shoot a couple wolves from a helicopter last year because they killed cattle grazing on public land? I seem to remember something like that. Seems to me that one of the wolf haters on this forum would have done it for free. You going to blame poor government management on an animal too?What's next? Wolves don't serve in the army? They don't pay their taxes? They aren't members of the NRA? THEY DON"T GO TO CHURCH!?!?!
I was more referring to your environmental views and apparent disgust for man. I'm sure the world would be better off if the government just started 'acquiring' millions of acres of undeveloped land and deemed it 'protected.'
Wolves COST the government (state and federal) millions to manage and provide detriment in return.
Quote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:31:22 PMQuote from: bearpaw on May 10, 2013, 12:23:17 PMIt is common knowledge that enviro whacko's like to masquerade as hunters to discredit and persuade hunting conversations. I wonder if acnewman55 even knows the name of the hunter in his/her profile photo. I know it's scary when people disagree with you. One thing I noticed immediately about this site; they ban you if you don't agree with the majority. IMO- it takes away from the creditability of the site. I always thought chat room sites were for everyone to share their opinions etc. The best chat rooms allow folks to disagree. Just because someone is for or aganist wolves, does not make them a tree hugger, wolf loving troll, etc. I happen to want ALL wolves wiped out, but I respect anyones opinion if they support wolves.
Quote from: 20 Minutes on May 11, 2013, 01:47:20 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:31:22 PMQuote from: bearpaw on May 10, 2013, 12:23:17 PMIt is common knowledge that enviro whacko's like to masquerade as hunters to discredit and persuade hunting conversations. I wonder if acnewman55 even knows the name of the hunter in his/her profile photo. I know it's scary when people disagree with you. One thing I noticed immediately about this site; they ban you if you don't agree with the majority. IMO- it takes away from the creditability of the site. I always thought chat room sites were for everyone to share their opinions etc. The best chat rooms allow folks to disagree. Just because someone is for or aganist wolves, does not make them a tree hugger, wolf loving troll, etc. I happen to want ALL wolves wiped out, but I respect anyones opinion if they support wolves.This is a hunting site. I know of no one who's been banned just for stating an opinion. I've seen some banned for making threats, continued obscenities, and for harassing other members. I understand that your lengthy tenure here of 32 posts is enough to make a judgment about the entire forum and how much it sucks. Feel free to log out anytime you like.As I mentioned this is a hunting site. The repopulation of wolves into WA creates a whole new variable with regard to our ungulate resources. Many of us, based on our experience of the plans adopted by the states of MT, WY, and ID fear for the future of our passion. So, the wolf issue is about as contentious as they come for hunters who've dedicated a good part of their lives studying, improving habitat for, and hunting elk, deer, and moose. If you don't have the skin for it, don't participate in the discussion.Had you been heavily involved in this site over the last month, you would perhaps seen what I've seen; that HuntWA is a forum filled with remarkable people who are knowledgeable, supportive, and unbelievably generous. In no other forum have I ever witnessed the depth of caring and integrity when the chips are down as I have here.
I wasn't packing a camera or a gun. The latter might have to be as important as TP one of these days.
Quote from: 20 Minutes on May 11, 2013, 01:47:20 AMQuote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:31:22 PMQuote from: bearpaw on May 10, 2013, 12:23:17 PMIt is common knowledge that enviro whacko's like to masquerade as hunters to discredit and persuade hunting conversations. I wonder if acnewman55 even knows the name of the hunter in his/her profile photo. I know it's scary when people disagree with you. And 2/3 of your post was not even relevant to what I was talking about. Typical know it all, long winded Hunt Wa member. Shorten it up Pianoboy.One thing I noticed immediately about this site; they ban you if you don't agree with the majority. IMO- it takes away from the creditability of the site. I always thought chat room sites were for everyone to share their opinions etc. The best chat rooms allow folks to disagree. Just because someone is for or aganist wolves, does not make them a tree hugger, wolf loving troll, etc. I happen to want ALL wolves wiped out, but I respect anyones opinion if they support wolves.This is a hunting site. I know of no one who's been banned just for stating an opinion. I've seen some banned for making threats, continued obscenities, and for harassing other members. I understand that your lengthy tenure here of 32 posts is enough to make a judgment about the entire forum and how much it sucks. Feel free to log out anytime you like.As I mentioned this is a hunting site. The repopulation of wolves into WA creates a whole new variable with regard to our ungulate resources. Many of us, based on our experience of the plans adopted by the states of MT, WY, and ID fear for the future of our passion. So, the wolf issue is about as contentious as they come for hunters who've dedicated a good part of their lives studying, improving habitat for, and hunting elk, deer, and moose. If you don't have the skin for it, don't participate in the discussion.Had you been heavily involved in this site over the last month, you would perhaps seen what I've seen; that HuntWA is a forum filled with remarkable people who are knowledgeable, supportive, and unbelievably generous. In no other forum have I ever witnessed the depth of caring and integrity when the chips are down as I have here.
Quote from: acnewman55 on May 10, 2013, 12:31:22 PMQuote from: bearpaw on May 10, 2013, 12:23:17 PMIt is common knowledge that enviro whacko's like to masquerade as hunters to discredit and persuade hunting conversations. I wonder if acnewman55 even knows the name of the hunter in his/her profile photo. I know it's scary when people disagree with you. And 2/3 of your post was not even relevant to what I was talking about. Typical know it all, long winded Hunt Wa member. Shorten it up Pianoboy.One thing I noticed immediately about this site; they ban you if you don't agree with the majority. IMO- it takes away from the creditability of the site. I always thought chat room sites were for everyone to share their opinions etc. The best chat rooms allow folks to disagree. Just because someone is for or aganist wolves, does not make them a tree hugger, wolf loving troll, etc. I happen to want ALL wolves wiped out, but I respect anyones opinion if they support wolves.
The environmentalists, USFWS and state game agencies have allowed the wolves to become the most hated animal in the rural lower 48 by introducing them and then protecting them above all else. For those of you who don't hate wolves yet, I would have to say you haven't suffered any personal losses from wolves. I wonder how you would feel if you had to spend countless hours trying to protect your livestock, and then have the wolves sneak in and kill a few, just to have the USFWS or state game agencies deny it was wolves time after time. Or have them lie and tell you there aren't any wolves in your area and if there were wolves they wouldn't kill your cows? I wonder how you would feel if you could no longer use dogs to move your cows? Or let your dog/dogs sleep on the porch? How would you feel if your kids couldn't go for hikes out of sight of the house, or sleep in the backyard anymore? How would you like these wolves chitting in your yard knowing what EG is? You say you don't hate wolves, do you like thieves also? The wolves are thieves protected by the feds and WDFW. How would like having to stand guard over your home 24/7 so that thieves wouldn't break in and steal your things? And when they did get caught how would you like it if the cops said it wasn't thieves, or when they caught the thieves they turned them loose, to see if they would steal from you again and again. My guess is that pretty soon you would learn to hate thieves. How would you feel about the people who allowed this to happen to you time and time again and then ran to the newspaper and lied their azz off. In 2004 when we started seeing wolves on a regular bases, I thought it was kind of cool, I knew nothing about these new wolves or the wolf introduction. Nine years later I have the lowest opinion of wolves and those who introduce them and then protect them with lies. I don't think hate is the proper word, as it goes much deeper.