what to do with a coyote?

[Smossy]

Well Smossy they have been howling around here the last few days and I think I'll take a little stroll out back this evening and go on a little "meat hunt". I see coyote backstrap round II coming. 

Woo!

[TripleB]

I cut the tail off. Cure it. Hang it on the string on my wall with the rest of them. leave the rest for something else to eat.  - Austin

[Halo]

Well, I took a stroll out back with the 30-06 and the predator call, saw nothing, I'll keep an eye out. Maybe I can shoot another one from the bathtub. I had to go back and go through that old coyote backstrap thread, forgot how funny that was. Definitely need another coyote cooking thread. 

[Boss .300 winmag]

So who's teaming up with Luke for Coyote Madness this year? 

LMAO

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,126322.0.html

Was this legal, and or justified BiggLuke? 

He never answered my question! 

Where are you BiggLuke?

[lucky33]

How come Lucky and Luke haven't found the time to post the regulations?

On page 79 of the regulations  It says,  and I quote # 2,  '' You may NOT allow game animals or game birds you have taken to be recklessly wasted.''   end quote.    A coyote is classifed as a game animal.  I am NOT saying dont kill them, but show a little class and at least do something other than let them lay. I understand not much can be done with a manged coyote, however just killing them and leaving them to rot is a great way to fuel the anti-hunters and others who would threaten what we do.    I rest my case.  You all can feel free to hate me now 

[pianoman9701]

How come Lucky and Luke haven't found the time to post the regulations?

On page 79 of the regulations  It says,  and I quote # 2,  '' You may NOT allow game animals or game birds you have taken to be recklessly wasted.''   end quote.    A coyote is classifed as a game animal.  I am NOT saying dont kill them, but show a little class and at least do something other than let them lay. I understand not much can be done with a manged coyote, however just killing them and leaving them to rot is a great way to fuel the anti-hunters and others who would threaten what we do.    I rest my case.  You all can feel free to hate me now 

Have you asked a wildlife enforcement officer yet? You'll be told it's not wasting game.

[lucky33]

How come Lucky and Luke haven't found the time to post the regulations?

On page 79 of the regulations  It says,  and I quote # 2,  '' You may NOT allow game animals or game birds you have taken to be recklessly wasted.''   end quote.    A coyote is classifed as a game animal.  I am NOT saying dont kill them, but show a little class and at least do something other than let them lay. I understand not much can be done with a manged coyote, however just killing them and leaving them to rot is a great way to fuel the anti-hunters and others who would threaten what we do.    I rest my case.  You all can feel free to hate me now 

Have you asked a wildlife enforcement officer yet? You'll be told it's not wasting game.

I have not. That aside, I dont find ''leaving them lay'' right as far as ethics are concerned.  Yes, they are despicable critters. Yes, they do terrible things to fawns, livestock, pets, ect. Even so, in the spirit of the hunt pulling the trigger and leaving something to rot doesnt seem right to me.  If we all did this, there would be no fringes on the hoods of our jackets made of good old coyote 

[Buckmark]

How come Lucky and Luke haven't found the time to post the regulations?

On page 79 of the regulations  It says,  and I quote # 2,  '' You may NOT allow game animals or game birds you have taken to be recklessly wasted.''   end quote.    A coyote is classifed as a game animal.  I am NOT saying dont kill them, but show a little class and at least do something other than let them lay. I understand not much can be done with a manged coyote, however just killing them and leaving them to rot is a great way to fuel the anti-hunters and others who would threaten what we do.    I rest my case.  You all can feel free to hate me now 

You are incorrect, coyotes are NOT classified as game animals by the wdfw...So do what you feel you need to with them, but dont tell the rest of us what we may do is wasting game..
Legal Status

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife does not classify coyotes as game animals, but a state license is required to hunt or trap them (RCW 77.32.010). The owner, the owner's immediate family, employee, or a tenant of real property may kill or trap a coyote on that property if it is damaging crops or domestic animals (RCW 77.36.030). A license is not required in such cases. Check with your county and/or local jurisdiction for local restrictions. Except for bona fide public or private zoological parks, persons and entities are prohibited from importing a coyote into Washington State without a permit from the Department of Agriculture and written permission from the Department of Health. Persons and entities are also prohibited from acquiring, selling, bartering, exchanging, giving, purchasing, or trapping a coyote for a pet or export (WAC 246-100-191).

[DoubleJ]

Buckmarks post should effectively end this argument.

[lucky33]

How come Lucky and Luke haven't found the time to post the regulations?

On page 79 of the regulations  It says,  and I quote # 2,  '' You may NOT allow game animals or game birds you have taken to be recklessly wasted.''   end quote.    A coyote is classifed as a game animal.  I am NOT saying dont kill them, but show a little class and at least do something other than let them lay. I understand not much can be done with a manged coyote, however just killing them and leaving them to rot is a great way to fuel the anti-hunters and others who would threaten what we do.    I rest my case.  You all can feel free to hate me now 

You are incorrect, coyotes are NOT classified as game animals by the wdfw...So do what you feel you need to with them, but dont tell the rest of us what we may do is wasting game..
Legal Status

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife does not classify coyotes as game animals, but a state license is required to hunt or trap them (RCW 77.32.010). The owner, the owner's immediate family, employee, or a tenant of real property may kill or trap a coyote on that property if it is damaging crops or domestic animals (RCW 77.36.030). A license is not required in such cases. Check with your county and/or local jurisdiction for local restrictions. Except for bona fide public or private zoological parks, persons and entities are prohibited from importing a coyote into Washington State without a permit from the Department of Agriculture and written permission from the Department of Health. Persons and entities are also prohibited from acquiring, selling, bartering, exchanging, giving, purchasing, or trapping a coyote for a pet or export (WAC 246-100-191).

Ok. I wonder why they still want us to get a permit for say, coyote madness, when they are basically in the same class as carp. Im not hear to muddle over laws and rules.  I dont like coyotes much, hate wolves, and Im not sure how I feel about foxes.  Now on the flipside, would those of you that would leave a coyote lay, do the same with a wolf? Or would you take the time to pelt it out?  This thread is now the biggest can of worms Ive seen. 

[Blacktail Sniper]

How come Lucky and Luke haven't found the time to post the regulations?

On page 79 of the regulations  It says,  and I quote # 2,  '' You may NOT allow game animals or game birds you have taken to be recklessly wasted.''   end quote.    A coyote is classifed as a game animal.  I am NOT saying dont kill them, but show a little class and at least do something other than let them lay. I understand not much can be done with a manged coyote, however just killing them and leaving them to rot is a great way to fuel the anti-hunters and others who would threaten what we do.    I rest my case.  You all can feel free to hate me now 

lucky33, here is a copy of the actual law that your are talking about.  You are incorrect about including coyotes as being covered under this statute because they are not BIG GAME animals and unless the coyote can talk, sing & dance or is made of gold, no coyote will ever be worth more than $250.00. 

The rules printed in the hunting pamplete are not always 100% complete, and a general guide.  If you look on the bottom right of page 11, you will see the following:

"WAC Summary Information  This pamphlet is a summary of the hunting regulations and seasons adopted by the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission.  This pamphlet does not contain nor is it intended to contain all Department regulations..."

There are also Washington Criminal codes called RCW's which also apply to Fish & Wildlife which is what is here:

RCW 77.15.170

Waste of fish and wildlife — Penalty.
 
(1) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife if:

     (a) The person kills, takes, or possesses fish, shellfish, or wildlife having a value of two hundred fifty dollars or more or wildlife classified as big game; and

     (b) The person recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.

     (2) Waste of fish and wildlife is a gross misdemeanor. Upon conviction, the department shall revoke any license or tag used in the crime and shall order suspension of the person's privileges to engage in the activity in which the person committed waste of fish and wildlife for a period of one year.

     (3) It is prima facie evidence of waste if:

     (a) A processor purchases or engages a quantity of food fish, shellfish, or game fish that cannot be processed within sixty hours after the food fish, game fish, or shellfish are taken from the water, unless the food fish, game fish, or shellfish are preserved in good marketable condition; or

     (b) A person brings a big game animal to a wildlife meat cutter and then abandons the animal. For purposes of this subsection (3)(b), a big game animal is deemed to be abandoned when its carcass is placed in the custody of a wildlife meat cutter for butchering and processing and:

     (i) Having been placed in such custody for an unspecified period of time, the meat is not removed within thirty days after the wildlife meat cutter gives notice to the person who brought in the carcass or, having been so notified, the person who brought in the carcass refuses or fails to pay the agreed upon or reasonable charges for the butchering or processing of the carcass; or

     (ii) Having been placed in such custody for a specified period of time, the meat is not removed at the end of the specified period or the person who brought in the carcass refuses to pay the agreed upon or reasonable charges for the butchering or processing of the carcass.



[2012 c 176 § 16; 1999 c 258 § 5; 1998 c 190 § 21.]


So you can argue all you want, but there is no law being violated for shooting and not recovering a coyote.  Sorry to burst your bubble, but there it is in black & white, look it up for yourself if you doubt me, you have all the info there to do so.   

[bobcat]

I dont find ''leaving them lay'' right as far as ethics are concerned.

So how about instead of leaving them lay, hanging them up on a fence as some guys do?

Here's another idea- how about giving us all your address so we can drop off all our coyote carcasses on your front porch?   

[Blacktail Sniper]

I dont find ''leaving them lay'' right as far as ethics are concerned.

So how about instead of leaving them lay, hanging them up on a fence as some guys do?

Here's one idea- how about giving us all your address so we can drop off all our coyote carcasses on your front porch?   

 

[xd2005]

While coyotes may not be "game animals," it seems they remain "wildlife."

RCW 77.15.160 Infractions
The following acts are infractions and must be cited and punished as provided under chapter 7.84 RCW:
...
2. (c) Wasting wildlife: Killing, taking, or possessing wildlife that is not classified as big game and has a value of less than two hundred fifty dollars, and allowing the wildlife to be wasted.


RCW 77.15.170 Waste of Fish and Wildlife - Penalty

(1) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife if:

     (a) The person kills, takes, or possesses fish, shellfish, or wildlife having a value of two hundred fifty dollars or more or wildlife classified as big game; and

     (b) The person recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.

     (2) Waste of fish and wildlife is a gross misdemeanor. Upon conviction, the department shall revoke any license or tag used in the crime and shall order suspension of the person's privileges to engage in the activity in which the person committed waste of fish and wildlife for a period of one year.


Neither agreeing or disagreeing, simply putting out what look to be relevant RCW's.

[Smossy]

I dont find ''leaving them lay'' right as far as ethics are concerned.

So how about instead of leaving them lay, hanging them up on a fence as some guys do?

Here's another idea- how about giving us all your address so we can drop off all our coyote carcasses on your front porch?   

Shoooot. Id take them if that wouldnt scare all the lil ninios in the neighborhood away, actually.. thats a great idea. 20 yotes would make a finne blanket.