Thanks a ton for the help ELKBURGER. I always make sure to ask permission anytime I even think it is a possibility of being on private property, I used to live in the country and we had people all the time that we would have to go talk to about hunting our land and actually had one group shoot at us with shotguns when all they would have had to do was come knock on our door and obey the few rules we had like don't shoot toward the house or shop. Once again though, thank you for your help.