Crab pots inthe salmon troll areas grrr!

[nwhunter]

While I understand that someone who isnt familiar with an area could mistakenly put pots where they shouldnt it sure is frustrating when they do!! Sure its a free country and you can put pots wherever you please but consider that the guys who fish for kings will be out when its just cracking daylite and when you set your pots right where oodles of boats troll and your lines are to short and the buoys are below the water it sure is maddening to find em with your downriggers! Saturday at Sekiu on our first troll just getting lite and bang three poles hung up on a hidden pot line, what a start to the day! Just venting a little! nwhunter

[bankwalker]

That would be extremely frustrating.

[sirmissalot]

It's been a while since I've had to deal with it, but I do remember those days. I'd never take a pot, but a few have been moved I will say that. Frustrating for sure.

How was fishing? I was in neah bay all week sounded like the fishing inside was good.

[philepe]

They bouy is underwater   Id say you would be doing them a favor by taking the pot out of the water and returning their lost pot too them.  Name phone address is supposed to be on the bouy.

[CP]

Phone # is not required but it is a good idea. 

Pots with properly weighted lines should not be a issue in the "trolling area".

[sirmissalot]

Pots with properly weighted lines should not be a issue in the "trolling area".

How so?

[trophyhunt]

Pots with properly weighted lines should not be a issue in the "trolling area".

How so?

He's probably talking about weighted rope or weights on the rope to keep the slack line tight with the bouy, but I don't know for sure. He Scott, how was the fishing? My friend went and said the fish were everywhere, I only saw a couple pic's of dead fish.

[jackelope]

Pots with properly weighted lines should not be a issue in the "trolling area".

How so?

How so is right...how would a downrigger cable, ball, flasher, lure, hook all avoid a pot line under water that can't be seen?

[CP]

Pots with properly weighted lines should not be a issue in the "trolling area".

How so?

He's probably talking about weighted rope or weights on the rope to keep the slack line tight with the bouy, but I don't know for sure. He Scott, how was the fishing? My friend went and said the fish were everywhere, I only saw a couple pic's of dead fish.

Right, buoys are required to be visible on the surface; line is required to be weighted so it doesn’t float.  If those simple rules are followed boats can easily maneuver to the down current side of the buoy and avoid getting tangled up in the line.

[jackmaster]

more than likely its people who dont pay attention to the depth and when they dump their pot accidentally in 150 ft of water when they only have a 110 ft of line  i think it generally guys out there that are complete green to the game of fishn and crabbn, and dont pay attention to certain things  all the weighted line in the world isnt gonna keep you from hangn up if you dont see a buoy to avoid 

[jackelope]

Pots with properly weighted lines should not be a issue in the "trolling area".

How so?

He's probably talking about weighted rope or weights on the rope to keep the slack line tight with the bouy, but I don't know for sure. He Scott, how was the fishing? My friend went and said the fish were everywhere, I only saw a couple pic's of dead fish.

Right, buoys are required to be visible on the surface; line is required to be weighted so it doesn’t float.  If those simple rules are followed boats can easily maneuver to the down current side of the buoy and avoid getting tangled up in the line.

I agree with you when everything is right(buoy lines long enough, buoys are floating and not underwater, etc) but that was not the case with the OP. I guess I misunderstood what you were saying.  The buoy lines he got into were too short so he couldn't see the lines he got into.

[sirmissalot]

Even with weighted lines and visible buoys they are still going to cause problems when dropped in popular fishing spots. It would certainly help though.

[MtnMuley]

There's going to be more and more idiots doing more and more sutpid things as each day passes.  It isn't going to ever get any better.  Sad, but true.

[h20hunter]

I've been thinking about this a bit.....If you show up and folks are crabbing where you planned on fishing....then tough, move on. They were there first and you would simply have to adjust to it. Now, if you are trolling and they drop a pot in front of you or in a spot that there are clearly some boats working then it is a different ball game.

[sirmissalot]

But... If someone drops a couple pots right in the middle of the most popular point at say.. Point defiance, the caves in front of sekui, bald point on the canal, the green can in neah bay... Just seems inconsiderate.

[nwhunter]

Ya it was obviously someone not familiar with how many boats troll that water. Sirmissalot guessed right with the caves at sekiu, not a place for pots whether they were there first or not. We missed the three that had visible bouys just not the sunken one. It must have jinx'd us cuz we didnt get a keeper all day, well we quit before noon due to family plans. Lots of shaker kings. Lost one nice one and saw some caught by others. Didnt go out deeper for coho or pinks so cant say how that is. Hoping to go to neah bay this weekend and try swiftsure if the ocean settles down. Oodles of big red jellyfish in front of the caves to the point of messing with your gear when they slide down your line and cables.nwhunter

[gasman]

Here we go. Another devision between users. Crabbers verses fishers 

I wanna troll here, no I wanna crab here, but its my spot, no its mine, I was here first....


Sounds like a buch of 

[MADMAX]

 

seriously huh ?
waaaa

[MtnMuley]

Here we go. Another devision between users. Crabbers verses fishers 

I wanna troll here, no I wanna crab here, but its my spot, no its mine, I was here first....


Sounds like a buch of 

seriously huh ?
waaaa

Really?  I don't see any "waaaaing" going on.  Just another knowledgable angler dealing with all the *censored* idiots out there.  It's really discouraging these days how many clueless idiots there really are.



please no profanity

[MADMAX]

Yup really
what next ?
go on the internet and complain about the big boat wake, heck no you
deal with it, you see crab pots in your troll path, swing wide away from them.
I don't condone it or like it either, I just accept it and deal with it.

[CP]

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[h20hunter]

Cant be done. Impossible.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

That's funny!

[MtnMuley]

Your right.....I guess just get the knife out and clear the path....hopefully they'll eventually figure it out.

[Dan-o]

Interesting dilemma....

I'm interested in hearing how some of you think these type of things should be resolved when both user groups have a legal right to do what they're doing.

I don't think just saying it's a fishing spot means you get priority over the crabbers......   Although I'd rather fish.   

[Bullkllr]

Yeah, I exercised my constitutional right to crab wherever I d*** well please, so what?
 To heck with the several hundred fisherman in the spot who will have to fish around my sunken bouy/line. Who cares about them anyway? Ain't this 'merica?

Next I'm heading down to the Columbia- I like to troll right in front of the most popular plunking bars!


...................................Sheesh........................................

[Button Nubbs]

I know lots of people who don't know any better. They don't fish, just go cabbing so they would not know the popular trolling areas. Annoying yes buut I bet most fisherman wouldn't do that, the crabbers just don't know any better

[sirmissalot]

I truly think most of them don't realize what they are doing.

Some of you just don't get it. The line off a crab pot doesn't hang perfectly straight, I don't care how perfectly weighted it is, it's going to have a good angle on it especially in most of these productive spots. The straights can have 5 knots of current. If it was as simple as going around a buoy I would agree with many of you but it's not. That one person crabbing in a popular fishing spot could screw up hundreds of other people, and will probably still end up losing their pot then complain that someone stole it! This isn't about crabbers vs fishermen, most fishermen are crabbers and most crabbers are fishermen. You guys saying we are crying about this are probably the same guys coming on here complaining someone pooped in the middle of the landing in your favorite spot. Hey, they were there first! SMH.

[elkfins]

jeez... deal with it and fish.  Try fishing Westport in close off the casino for kings.  Sunken crab pots are just a part of the game.