Wedge Pack kills another calf, McIrvins neighbor this time!

[bearpaw]

McIrvin's neighbor suffered the loss this time, the authorities were up there just a few hours ago, I am told the sherriff's office said it was wolf and WDFW agreed, a confirmed wolf kill.

I was told the calf was partially eaten and still half alive, but that was second hand info so not sure about that, I should hear the full story on the local radio tomorrow.

[wolfbait]

That has to be a shocker for WDF&wolves, after all didn't they take out most of the livestock killers last year? Did they look for cougar tracks? 

 This is the new norm for livestock producers, most of you have heard of the devastation with WY, ID and MT, wolves killing livestock and the lack of confirmed wolf killed livestock. Now both OR and WA are the targets.

Welcome to the USFWS-WDFW wolf program

[wolfbait]

USFWS>by the time we got there, there was nothing left but hip and hide bones--WDFW> It was clearly fed on by something but by the time we got there there was nothing left but a pile of maggots.

[wolfbait]

WDFW>Are you sure it wasn't a cougar?

[ICEMAN]

Wolfbair, are your pics related to this recent case?

[wolfbait]

Yep, they surely are Iceman.

[wolfbait]

If WDFW would have been honest from the start we would not be in the mess we are today! Past history is very relevant, otherwise how do we learn from our mistakes?

[danderson]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the solution to the problem, start letting the ranchers effected by wolf predation to remove the problem animals, we don't need to be spending thousands of dollars on fancy studies 

[pianoman9701]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the solution to the problem, start letting the ranchers effected by wolf predation to remove the problem animals, we don't need to be spending thousands of dollars on fancy studies 

This is only symptomatic of the larger problem: wolves are incredibly prolific and need to be managed now, not 3-5 years from now. The DFW is in water about 10' over their heads and they think they're still on dry land.

[seth30]

Its a darn shame that good folk trying to make a living the hard way, can not protect there livestock from vermin.   What I think is funny is most of those wolf lovers eat meat and probably assume it is made in grocery stores.  I wonder how much they will complain when our beef prices jump through the roof to cover all the damages these wolves make.

[bobcat]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the solution to the problem, start letting the ranchers effected by wolf predation to remove the problem animals, we don't need to be spending thousands of dollars on fancy studies 

Problem animals? But aren't ALL wolves "problem animals?"

And even if ranchers were allowed to do so, how effective could they really be at eliminating the cattle eating wolves?

Unless poison was an option, I don't see how they would have much success in killing them.

[turkeyfeather]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the solution to the problem, start letting the ranchers effected by wolf predation to remove the problem animals, we don't need to be spending thousands of dollars on fancy studies 

Problem animals? But aren't ALL wolves "problem animals?"

And even if ranchers were allowed to do so, how effective could they really be at eliminating the cattle eating wolves?

Unless poison was an option, I don't see how they would have much success in killing them.

I agree with Bobcat. We are already past the point of hunting them. This problem has already gotten to far outta hand and "other" methods are gonna be needed at this point.

[270Flat]

Trap them and take em back to Canada!!

[bearpaw]

If you look at the wolf count topic, we are now seeing wolves regularly all over the state on a regular basis, as soon as these singles and doubles breed in a year or two, we will definitely be past the point of no return.

Hunters and Taxpayers will bear the brunt of wolf management because there is really only four options in wolf management, hunting, trapping, poison, and helicopter. ID/MT have both found out that hunting is not enough, poison is illegal everywhere and trapping is illegal in WA, so that leaves helicopter and that costs a lot of money.

It takes WDFW 2 years to figure out when herds drop due to a bad winter, they will be at least 2 years behind determining when wolves have already seriously reduced herds. Then according to what they said in the Colville meeting they plan to study the problem thoroughly before managing wolves.

[Mudman]

Correct me if Im wrong but I thought our native wolves were timber wolves and these wolves are Grey wolves?  I have read they act and behave differently.  Could we not argue no protection for an invasive species?