Packing out quarters. What order?

[bobcat]

Curly, you quoted provider incorrectly. You put the "(naturally to the carcass)" in the wrong spot. Here is how he had it: 

"Evidence of sex means:  Male- head with antlers or horns attached (naturally to the carcass) or penis or testes naturally attached to at least one quarter of the carcass or to the largest portion of meat."

I'm not sure where that "naturally to the carcass) part came from, I thought provider added that himself, because in my regulations, it isn't there. Maybe I will have to look up the actual WAC and see how it is worded.

[bobcat]

a) Evidence of sex means the head with antlers or horns attached or penis or testes of male big game animals or the head or udder of female big game animals any of which must be naturally attached to at least one quarter of the carcass or to the largest portion of meat.

This is the actual wording from WAC 232-12-267. From this it sounds like just having the head is not enough. I bet there's a lot of elk hunters who don't comply with this law.

[boneaddict]

I would have been one of them.  I always packed out the whole head and figured I was ok, except with my moose.  YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ICEMAN]

Basically I think the gist of the law is to keep some *censored* from running around with a set of spike antlers, shooting cows and claiming they belong to the antlers back at the truck.  Though a pain in the ass, it seem pretty reasonable to me.

Oops.    

[boneaddict]

 


You're going to have some green uniformed guys showing up in a brown truck in the next day or so.

[billythekidrock]

Don't ya'll have a set of those? I thought everyone did?

[Fletch]

LMAO at the horns...often wish I had a set when all you see is cows running around hahahahahaha...my interpretation is....if you remove the head from the body, you must leave a nut.  Proof of sex attached to the meat some how...a removed head is not attached to the carcass.  so if you pack out the head and horns you still need a nut...if you drag the darn thing out by the horns no nut is needed...

we cut the elk into 4 pieces and pack the whole darn thing out.  I would say the way we cut them the back half is the easiest to pack and the front half is either heavier or just more awkward...either way they are all heavy!!!

[bobcat]

my interpretation is....if you remove the head from the body, you must leave a nut.  Proof of sex attached to the meat some how...a removed head is not attached to the carcass.  so if you pack out the head and horns you still need a nut...if you drag the darn thing out by the horns no nut is needed...

I don't interpet the written law that way, but I think that's the way it SHOULD be. And, I believe it's that way in other states. I know for sure it is that way in Oregon. I will leave a nut attached anyway just because it's so easy to do, there's no reason not to do so. I have never packed an elk out without first removing the head, and deer I don't bring them out with the head attached much anymore either. Getting lazy (and smarter I guess) in my old age. 

[Curly]

Bob, what do you mean......you don't interpet the law that way?  The wording from the WAC that you posted on the 19th seems fairly clear.  I thought you changed you view of the rule after reading Provider's post and then reading the WAC?

[Coasthunterjay]

He just wants to play with NUTs LMAO

[johnsc6]

If you have packed enough meat out of big country, you will cut off the horns on the spot.  Small bulls with no taxidermy value get the cape left too.  I always carry a small packboard and enough game bags to put all the meat in.  remember to cover meat with some branches or hang from tree so the vermin (weasels, jays ect) don't eat on your prize.

[bobcat]

Bob, what do you mean......you don't interpet the law that way?  The wording from the WAC that you posted on the 19th seems fairly clear.  I thought you changed you view of the rule after reading Provider's post and then reading the WAC?

Damn, I'm not having much luck trying to explain myself here. 

I'll try again. To me, the way the law is written, you need either a head with antlers attached (attached meaning the antlers are attached to the head) OR if you don't have that, you need some other evidence of sex attached to a quarter. The confusion is coming from the word "attached." Some are taking it to mean that for the head/antlers to count as evidence of sex that it must remain attached to the rest of the animal. Well I just don't read it that way. But I still think to be on the safe side you may as well leave a nut attached either way. Then there will be no question about it.

[Wea300mag]

My motto is go in with numbers. Unfortunately I have to do double the work of my hunting crew because they are weak in the knees. I guarantee I have packed more quarters/halves than were packed for me and not because I don't harvest my share.

The ruling in Montana is that you must have proof of sex on one of the hind quarters, I know that for a fact because I quartered a nice 4pt deer many years ago several miles from the road and did not leave proof. At the game check I was read the riot act for 15 min by an old time Gamie looking to make a point for his trainee. He threatened to take my gun, truck, kids, ex-wife (he can have her) etc. This state is not so stringent, you can get away with head/horns. For a doe I'm not so sure, I have never taken one of them.