Clarification

[buckfvr]

Thanks for the welcome back.... I have a few emails ill keep an if i see a Gamie ill ask .... But don't the Gamies work for OLY?

Always defer to who writes the tickies....................

bobcat........I couldnt possibly feel any more positive they would write the ticket muy pronto..........black and white.............

[bobcat]

Buckfvr,  how can you be so sure? Did you or someone you know get a ticket for this?

[Bob33]

"I understand, and agree, but still- the intent of the law couldn't have been to outlaw a camera on a bow. It makes no sense. "

Just remember: Al Capone was convicted of tax evasion, not murder.

[MattySuto]

I'm going to continue emailing them... I emailed the enforcement personnel and that supervisor forwarded my email to the person that responded to me.... I will continue to get as many emails as I can an from different people from OLY...

[buckfvr]

Buckfvr,  how can you be so sure? Did you or someone you know get a ticket for this?

They write tickets by the book, not by interpretation, theirs or yours.  Ive been told by wardens before who were friends of many seasons.....they write em like they see "em, and its the judges job to sort them out.  Thats all..........

[turkeyfeather]

 I would actually question they were doing their job if they didn't write the ticket. They are not in a position really to decide which laws they do and don't wanna enforce. Very slippery slope and I think we have all seen before what can happen if you let them make judgement calls.

[Blacktail Sniper]

They write tickets by the book, not by interpretation, theirs or yours.  Ive been told by wardens before who were friends of many seasons.....they write em like they see "em, and its the judges job to sort them out.  Thats all..........
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That I do believe is very true.  I think the logic is "If I caught you this time, how many times did you get away with it?," mainly because there are few and they are spread out so thin. 

My personal experience is after hunting in Cowlitz Co/St Helen's Tree Farm from 1976 to 2010, I was only contacted and checked 3 times while out hunting and never while fishing.  So it would kinda make sense they would lean towards this way of thinking.

[Blacktail Sniper]

I would actually question they were doing their job if they didn't write the ticket. They are not in a position really to decide which laws they do and don't wanna enforce. Very slippery slope and I think we have all seen before what can happen if you let them make judgement calls.

I think where the confusion or maybe resistance comes from is in comparison to non-wildlife law enforcement and their use of discretion, as in say, an officer opting for giving a warning for speeding vs just writing a ticket every time.  Haven't really heard of WDFW giving warnings or breaks, just writing violations, or so it seems.

[buckfvr]

The unofficial word from more than one source is 100% cite.................

[billythekidrock]

I suspect a warden may chime in here with an opinion on the matter.
 


My gut says that lady is wrong. We've had people literally busted for posting video that they took with a bow  mounted camera.  The thread is still around.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.msg404557.html#msg404557

I agree. This would not be the first time she gave wrong info.

We are also not seeing the whole email chain and it is possible that what we are being shown is out of context.

[turkeyfeather]

I would actually question they were doing their job if they didn't write the ticket. They are not in a position really to decide which laws they do and don't wanna enforce. Very slippery slope and I think we have all seen before what can happen if you let them make judgement calls.

I think where the confusion or maybe resistance comes from is in comparison to non-wildlife law enforcement and their use of discretion, as in say, an officer opting for giving a warning for speeding vs just writing a ticket every time.  Haven't really heard of WDFW giving warnings or breaks, just writing violations, or so it seems.

Absolutely agree. I dont believe gamies are as leanient as a regular pd officer.

[Jellymon]

You got that email from the same people in Olympia that couldn't figure out if my cougar was a male or not, and everything was attached to the hide! I think I will play it safe and follow the regs in the book.

[Curly]

I suspect a warden may chime in here with an opinion on the matter.
 


My gut says that lady is wrong. We've had people literally busted for posting video that they took with a bow  mounted camera.  The thread is still around.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.msg404557.html#msg404557

I agree. This would not be the first time she gave wrong info.

We are also not seeing the whole email chain and it is possible that what we are being shown is out of context.

I was just going to point that out too.  She has given bad info before.

It is definitely not legal to have a camera on your bow.  Now, I could maybe see where a particular warden might think it is a dumb law and not cite for it if that is their personal belief, but I would bet that 99% of the time you'd be cited.

Like someone else pointed out, they would have added an exception for cameras when they added the exception for lighted nocks.

[Curly]

By the logic of that reply, illuminated nocks would have already been legal. Fiber optic sights would be legal. Rangefinders would be legal as none of them project a beam onto the target.

Exactly!  Try placing a Rangefinder on your bow and see how that goes over with a warden.  It falls under the same category as a camera.

[pianoman9701]

Thanks for posting this.

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