Suggested Shotgun Home Defense Round

[Rick]

People need to get the whole "racking" sound scaring someone away routine out of their head.  You lose any advantage you had by doing that. It tells the guy where you are,what you're armed with,and that you either have one less round in the magazine or that you weren't ready to dance.

[OutdoorFreak97]

If you do that in my house you won't hear anything but me telling you get out followed closely by a loud boom.  My shotgun is loaded with buckshot.

That is why I said if I WAS, having commonsense, something a lot of people don't have
I haven't made a habit of stealing stuff and that's why I will never break into your house or anyone else's.

[Smossy]

If you do that in my house you won't hear anything but me telling you get out followed closely by a loud boom.  My shotgun is loaded with buckshot.

That is why I said if I WAS, having commonsense, something a lot of people don't have
I haven't made a habit of stealing stuff and that's why I will never break into your house or anyone else's.

You can break into my house, you'll only get shot with a bow, or slammed with a tomahawk. no big deal.

[kckrawler]

Pretty interesting and informative Youtube clip...

Understanding Ballistics in Home Defense

[OutdoorFreak97]

If you do that in my house you won't hear anything but me telling you get out followed closely by a loud boom.  My shotgun is loaded with buckshot.

That is why I said if I WAS, having commonsense, something a lot of people don't have
I haven't made a habit of stealing stuff and that's why I will never break into your house or anyone else's.

You can break into my house, you'll only get shot with a bow, or slammed with a tomahawk. no big deal.

Only if its a expandable or thumper!

Oh, slight suggestion... use shark knife instead of a tomahawk!
For fast response you'll have to wear it to bed as it takes a few minutes to put on.

[Smossy]

If you do that in my house you won't hear anything but me telling you get out followed closely by a loud boom.  My shotgun is loaded with buckshot.

That is why I said if I WAS, having commonsense, something a lot of people don't have
I haven't made a habit of stealing stuff and that's why I will never break into your house or anyone else's.

You can break into my house, you'll only get shot with a bow, or slammed with a tomahawk. no big deal.

Only if its a expandable or thumper!

Oh, slight suggestion... use shark knife instead of a tomahawk!
For fast response you'll have to wear it to bed as it takes a few minutes to put on.

 
Holy cow.

[jay.sharkbait]

There is a good reason why you don't see any police agencies using bird shot in their shotguns. 
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Army Rangers used to pack birdshot. Not sure if they still do or not.

I don't know a single Ranger who would ever consider birdshot..........

[Smossy]

Pretty interesting and informative Youtube clip...

Understanding Ballistics in Home Defense

Cool video but I noticed there was no insulation in-between the walls, that on top of 2x4 studs that are about every few feet. Wonder how much those could come into play.

[turkeyfeather]

Pretty interesting and informative Youtube clip...

Understanding Ballistics in Home Defense

Cool video but I noticed there was no insulation in-between the walls, that on top of 2x4 studs that are about every few feet. Wonder how much those could come into play.

Interior walls generally don't have insulation. And I have seen non-weight bearing walls be 24" on center for the studs. That's about the size those panels look to me. But your right exterior walls would have different results.

[CP]

 
A 9mm will shoot through 11 sheets of dry wall.  Installation will slow down a round but not much.  If you use a handgun for home protection you really should be using something frangible like a Glaser Safety Slug

[jaymark6655]

Pretty interesting and informative Youtube clip...

Understanding Ballistics in Home Defense

Cool video but I noticed there was no insulation in-between the walls, that on top of 2x4 studs that are about every few feet. Wonder how much those could come into play.

Interior walls don't have insulation and a wall is 93% air and only about 7% wood.  That a lot of chances to miss the studs on a 16" on center wall.  An exterior wall doesn't do anything to stop an .40 and that first wall didn't stop that birdshot, but they didn't show that.  9mm will go through a fridge fill completely with gallon milk jugs of water, all the way through with enough to hurt a person.

I use birdshot in my shotgun, but I also have everything else loaded so I can pretty much grab what ever I want to.

[justaguy]

low recoil birdshot x2, followed by buckshot. if the birdshot doesn't communicate your intentions, the buck shot's there to seal the deal (the birdshot should be adequate within 5-7 yds). 
over penetration and collateral damage are both serious concerns with interior structures. rack one and call out in a loud, confident voice to "get out". i'd bet you hear pooping sounds.

[higunner]

#4 birdshot for inside the house.  It won't travel through other walls as easy and injure others (aka your family sleeping)

[Fisherdave10]

For home defense, I would have 00 Buck, #1 Buck or #4 Buck if I was overly concerned with over penetration.

I have Federal Premium 00 Buck on standby, but I would prefer #1 Buck if I could easily find it.

Really, I wouldn't be reaching for my shotgun for home defense.  I have my AR loaded with 30 rounds of 64gr Federal Fusion.   A deformed, tumbling .224"+ bullet isn't going to go through more walls than a 00 Buck or a JHP load.

Glaser Safety Slugs and any other "frangible" ammunition is a very poor choice.  Drywall won't stop it and terminal ballistics are pretty pathetic.  Not to mention the highway-robbery price for that garbage.

Birdshot has very minimal penetration compared to most defensive loads and I would rather use something that is capable of putting an attacker down due to CNS disruption or hypovolemia.  If you're going to mess around, use a cap gun...   

[Smossy]

Pretty interesting and informative Youtube clip...

Understanding Ballistics in Home Defense

Cool video but I noticed there was no insulation in-between the walls, that on top of 2x4 studs that are about every few feet. Wonder how much those could come into play.

Interior walls don't have insulation and a wall is 93% air and only about 7% wood.  That a lot of chances to miss the studs on a 16" on center wall.  An exterior wall doesn't do anything to stop an .40 and that first wall didn't stop that birdshot, but they didn't show that.  9mm will go through a fridge fill completely with gallon milk jugs of water, all the way through with enough to hurt a person.

I use birdshot in my shotgun, but I also have everything else loaded so I can pretty much grab what ever I want to.

Good point, Didnt think about indoor walls not having insulation.