Which Weatherby?

[Antlershed]

Been looking at Weatherby and am wondering what your opinions are between the Mark V Ultralight and the Vanguard Sub-MOA? Will probably be looking at either the .300win or the .300wby.

[270Shooter]

Never shot either. But i like the look and feel of the ultralight. Although in magnum calibers its really not that light. And i would get it in 270 wby mag. But a 300 is good 

[Antlershed]

Jus curious, but what is the advantage to the weatherby caliber vs the win? Either .270win vs .270wby or .300win vs .300wby? Isn't the ammo for the Wby calibers more expensive?

[270Shooter]

Those are completly differnt cartiridges a 270 win holds far less powder than a 270 wby

[SilkWWU]

Ok, let me give some personal experience I own a Weatherby .270 Mark V and a .338 Weatherby Vanguard.  First and foremost the Mark V .270 ammo is like $51.00 a box.  The .338 Federal Barnes Trip X is 63.99 a box.  The price of ammo is just high.  My opinion on the two.

The .270 Mark V shoots flatter and hits hard.  I've shot two deer with it and they have both traveled less than 50 yards.  It is the best shooting gun I've ever put to my shoulder.  Period.

The .338 has some serious firepower and doesn't kick as hard as other .338 rifle makers, Weatherby in general just makes a BETTER GUN.  You won't be dissapointed with either.  I will be hard pressed to buy anything other than a weatherby.

(People ask me all the time, what's the differnce between a Weatherby and a remington or a ruger.  I tell them the same difference as night and day, and IMO that is the truth---Not saying you can't be effective with other guns, but I mean there is a difference between a Mercedes and a Chevy, a Chevy can be nice, but it's not a Mercedes.)

If you are hunting deer, I wouldn't even hesitate, I feel like .270 is a better gun.  But it is a little light for elk (the Weatherby .270 can definetely take down an elk, I just like a little more firepower which is why I own a .338 now.)  The .300 you are talking about it enough gun for Elk, and that's my only comparrison to my .338.

But seriously I love both guns, have fun with them! 

[C-Money]

Buying Weatherby ammo will be very expensive. If you reload you are in good shape, go for it! As far as caliber goes, .270,.300, .338.....If you hit'em where they live, they will die!!
Know your rifle, know your ammo, put a Leupold on it, and you will LOVE your new Weatherby!

[wrangler]

i have a mark v in .340, and a vanguard in .300wby and i also have the mark V ultralight in .280 and with a 2.5x8 vx-III scope its the sweetest piece this side of an allout custom. the weatherby action is second to none. the gun shoots .5 moa all day long at 100yds (after i found the right load) all my weatherbys seem to be VERY picky on load combination, but extremely accurate when you hit just right. the only factory rifle's i'll buy are weatherbys, been that way for a while, but any of my new rifles will most likely be customs, built on a howa (weatherby vanguard) action. i would say go for it 110%, you WILL NOT be disappointed!

[WDFW-SUX]

I have a Ultra lite 300 Wby and consider it my most reliable firearm.  The recoil is stiff in the ultra lite and the ammo is spendy if you don't reload. Mine is tricked out gotta blueprinted action, krieger barrel and a muzzle break shoots .1in groups with 165 tsx's @ 3350fps.  Pretty much the gun I turn too when Im serious about getting something done.


The gun does it all.

[Antlershed]

Thanks guys. I'm also torn as to whether I want to get a .270 now and then get a magnum caliber at a later time, or just buy one rifle in the middle (the .300). I'm getting close to the point where I will hopefully be drawing an Eastside elk tag, and while I know the .270 can handle an elk on the wetside of the state (usually closer ranges), I don't know if I would feel comfortable heading east with it. Too many choices... 

[MuleySniper]

I have a .300 and a .270 weatherby. Both are awesome. I shoot Weatherby factory loads with Nosler Partitions. That gets expensive. I ended up buying dies and just in the last six months started reloading. Check out the ballistics and you will be amazed. Like a lot of guys are saying, there definitely is a difference between weatherby and winchester.
MS

[SilkWWU]

A .270 Weatherby load can kill anything in the state.

[MuleySniper]

A .270 Weatherby load can kill anything in the state.

 

[Antlershed]

A .270 Weatherby load can kill anything in the state.

I was just checking out the ballistics between the .270wby, the .270 win and the .280 Rem.....You may have just made up my mind for that .270wby.  

[MuleySniper]

 

[bankwalker]

Thanks guys. I'm also torn as to whether I want to get a .270 now and then get a magnum caliber at a later time, or just buy one rifle in the middle (the .300). I'm getting close to the point where I will hopefully be drawing an Eastside elk tag, and while I know the .270 can handle an elk on the wetside of the state (usually closer ranges), I don't know if I would feel comfortable heading east with it. Too many choices... 

those ultra lights are sweet guns, and feel SOLID! which personaly i cant say for any other factory synthetic light wieght mountain style rifle i have felt in any shop. though others may be nice guns and get the job done they just dont feel like solid rifles.

[SilkWWU]

A .270 Weatherby load can kill anything in the state.

I was just checking out the ballistics between the .270wby, the .270 win and the .280 Rem.....You may have just made up my mind for that .270wby.  

Though I did get made fun of relentlessly in Elk Camp for having some a girly gun, which is why I went out and got a .338 Weatherby Win Mag.  I mean, my reputation was at stake!  LOL

[WDFW-SUX]

My next gun is going to be a 270 WBY.......

[SilkWWU]

If you can afford it a Mark V it's worth the extra cash.

[Dmanmastertracker]

 I own the .300 win mag Vanguard, love it. As far as comparing it to the Mark V, I can't, but I know the Mark V is more expensive and for my buck the Vanguard is all the rifle anyone would need. Durable as heck.

[270Shooter]

My dream gun would be a weatherby ultralight left-handed in .270 weatherby magnum . But they only make it in 257 and 300 wby and i don't have the cash

[poulsbo]

buy the vanguard sub-moa the real ones aren't worth it. i've got 4 vanguards and they'll outshoot everthing except my customs.

[Intruder]

First off let me say that I've never owned a Weatherby.  I've been around a few and shot em on occasion that's about it.  I'm pretty familiar with them in an accedemic sense and can offer a perspective to other makes. 

Either gun you mentioned is a well made gun.  You'd likely be happy with either.  Alot comes down to what you really want and your budget.  From a big game hunting perspective both will perform for you.

I'm not sure I would categorize Weatherbys as superior to other maker's guns.  Remington, Sako and Browning all make guns on par w/ Weatherby.  There are some things I really like about the Mark series gun... the swing on the bolt, the adjustable trigger, fit/finish, etc.  Some claim that the lugs on it are better/stronger but the data I've seen doesn't bear that out.  All in all they are a really good guns though... well above average.   

As far as particular calibers go, I confess I'm not a Weatherby fan.  Without offending all the Weatherby aficionados I tend to think the performance gain comes at too big a price... and not just dollars.  I just think a guy is better off with the more common cals

[SilkWWU]

First off let me say that I've never owned a Weatherby.  I've been around a few and shot em on occasion that's about it.  I'm pretty familiar with them in an accedemic sense and can offer a perspective to other makes. 

Either gun you mentioned is a well made gun.  You'd likely be happy with either.  Alot comes down to what you really want and your budget.  From a big game hunting perspective both will perform for you.

I'm not sure I would categorize Weatherbys as superior to other maker's guns.  Remington, Sako and Browning all make guns on par w/ Weatherby.  There are some things I really like about the Mark series gun... the swing on the bolt, the adjustable trigger, fit/finish, etc.  Some claim that the lugs on it are better/stronger but the data I've seen doesn't bear that out.  All in all they are a really good guns though... well above average.   

As far as particular calibers go, I confess I'm not a Weatherby fan.  Without offending all the Weatherby aficionados I tend to think the performance gain comes at too big a price... and not just dollars.  I just think a guy is better off with the more common cals:twocents:

No offense but your wrong IMO.  The only gun I cannot speak for is a SAKO because I have no shot one.  I have shot Remmington's and Brownings and even my browning bearing hunting partner loves my weatherby's.  It's a simple fact.  Weatherby beats out hands down any other non custom off the shelf guns.  Period.

[Intruder]

No offense but your wrong IMO.  The only gun I cannot speak for is a SAKO because I have no shot one.  I have shot Remmington's and Brownings and even my browning bearing hunting partner loves my weatherby's.  It's a simple fact.  Weatherby beats out hands down any other non custom off the shelf guns.  Period.

OK... if you say so

[Rick]

First off let me say that I've never owned a Weatherby.  I've been around a few and shot em on occasion that's about it.  I'm pretty familiar with them in an accedemic sense and can offer a perspective to other makes. 

Either gun you mentioned is a well made gun.  You'd likely be happy with either.  Alot comes down to what you really want and your budget.  From a big game hunting perspective both will perform for you.

I'm not sure I would categorize Weatherbys as superior to other maker's guns.  Remington, Sako and Browning all make guns on par w/ Weatherby.  There are some things I really like about the Mark series gun... the swing on the bolt, the adjustable trigger, fit/finish, etc.  Some claim that the lugs on it are better/stronger but the data I've seen doesn't bear that out.  All in all they are a really good guns though... well above average.   

As far as particular calibers go, I confess I'm not a Weatherby fan.  Without offending all the Weatherby aficionados I tend to think the performance gain comes at too big a price... and not just dollars.  I just think a guy is better off with the more common cals:twocents:

No offense but your wrong IMO.  The only gun I cannot speak for is a SAKO because I have no shot one.  I have shot Remmington's and Brownings and even my browning bearing hunting partner loves my weatherby's.  It's a simple fact.  Weatherby beats out hands down any other non custom off the shelf guns.  Period.

Other than saying a Weatherby beats out anything else "hands down" why don't you give us some facts to back up your opinion?

What make a Weatherby so superior to everything else? Like I said,I'm not looking for opinion.

[deaddog]

as you tout how good the vanguard is keep in mind the action and barrel are built by howa of japan, not saying thats a bad thing just a thing!.

[jdb]

I have nothing against weatherby's but if there so great how come no custom smith uses there actions? I shouldnt say "no" but I have never seen a custom rifle built on an weatherby action, lots of mauser's, pre 64 winchester's, and remington's but no westherby's JB

[Intruder]

The Weatherby Mark V action is one of the smoothest strongest actions out there with (I believe) still the shortest throw.  As one of the posts before pointed out the Vanguard isn't really a "Weatherby" it's a Howa and as he pointed out there's nothing wrong with that. 

When you get down to brass tacks however there isn't anything that truly separates Weatherby in quanative measures (unless you want to focus entirely on the bolt construction) from the other top off the shelf guns.  The Mark V is a very good gun and there may be some features that a guy may prefer over other guns but to claim it is superior to the top end 700s, A/X Bolts, and Sakos is not based on objective measure (hell ya almost gotta throw Savage in the mix to be honest).  When taken on the whole (barrels, triggers, bedding, free floating, stocks, etc) some would argue that the evidence points to other manufacturers making a better gun.  To me it's hair splitting.... they're all damn good. 

I do find it odd as, jdb pointed out, that you rarely ever see Weatherby actions on custom guns.  Again, I think that Mark V action is really nice.... but I've only seen 1 custom gun w/ one of their actions.  I know there are certain applications where the large bolt face (Mark) and thus action tolerances play better with the larger diameter cartridges like the cals based on the Rigby cases.  As such some big customs are using Weatherby actions.  I've read some stuff from the Lilja guys talking about this.

As far as Weatherby calibers... that's a whole other discussion.   

[WDFW-SUX]

I believe that part of the issue with custom guns having Weatherby actions is that they are difficult to source Vs a Rem 700 or Win pre 64.

I have two custom rifles built on Weatherby Mark V actions and I had to take both of them off fully functioning rifles.  It might not be cost effective for most people but once the actions are Blueprinted they are solid gold.

Im a Mark V shooter for life.

[Intruder]

Availability is probably a big factor.

No argument from me with your approach to your rifles.... 

[high country]

the reason not many customs are built on mark v's is due to the action cost, the work to true up ALL the action lugs and the ease of a remington, simple, round, easy to square.

I have wby's ultralight super big game master and it is a sweet rifle, but I would not even put it in the same cabinet as my greg tannel built rifle.

[Slider]

How about a 7mm Weatherby Mag?

[Tony 270WSM]

The 270 and 7WSMs aren't far behind the Weatherbys at all. Worth looking at them. I've always liked the 257 Weatherby. The big 300 blows the WSM away. But 270 and 7mm... there isn't too big of a difference.

[NORRISKI]

I own a mark V 270 with a Boyds thumbhole stock that i had installed.This gun has killed deer a ranges from 150yards to 330 yards, it is flat shooting and accurate.I shoot 140 grain federal trophy bond bearclaws about $30.00 a box at midway usa on sale. I also have had a 300 weatherby also very accurate. I shoot my 300win tikka t3 lite more due to gun weight and cheaper ammo, the mark v is just to heavy to pack all day.The tikka is the best factory rifle in the price range hands down, it is an absolute tack driver right out the box. If your heart is set on weatherby the 270 is a fine choice if not tikka in 270wsm is one to look at.

[gramps]

I have a 28 yr old Mark V .257 Wby that I would not trade for anything.  The rifle is a little heavy, but a great cartridge.