Free: Contests & Raffles.
Quote from: idahohuntr on September 23, 2013, 02:51:17 PMQuote from: huntnphool on September 23, 2013, 01:25:20 PM What is the difference between him paying tens of thousands to hunt and the rest of us paying a couple thousand? It is not the hiring of a guide or paying trespass fees that I have an issue with...it is how the state allocates very limited resources that I am concerned with (i.e., branch bull tags). I think as many of us have stated if we had the money we would do the exact same thing...so I am not saying those who buy the governors tag or spend 20k on raffle tickets are doing anything wrong...they are playing by the rules and providing money to support habitat, research etc. I just think the "rules" need revised so premium tags are available to all sportsmen equally (those with and without deep pockets)...I know many will disagree, this is just how I see the issue. And again, I hold no ill-will towards those that pay for these tags...I wish I could do the same!! Maybe instead of an auction or a raffle give these tags as incentives to landowners who allow youth hunts or disabled hunts? Or save the eastside elk raffle tag for landowners that enroll in the FFTH program...every 50 (or 100..)?? acres a landowner enrolls in FFTH gets a raffle ticket for a coveted tag...that would be a real win-win...yea it would still be wealthy folks who own lots of land having the highest chance of getting a coveted tag but it would have direct and immediate impacts on the average hunters opportunity. 5 TICKET CAP ON RAFFLE TICKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: huntnphool on September 23, 2013, 01:25:20 PM What is the difference between him paying tens of thousands to hunt and the rest of us paying a couple thousand? It is not the hiring of a guide or paying trespass fees that I have an issue with...it is how the state allocates very limited resources that I am concerned with (i.e., branch bull tags). I think as many of us have stated if we had the money we would do the exact same thing...so I am not saying those who buy the governors tag or spend 20k on raffle tickets are doing anything wrong...they are playing by the rules and providing money to support habitat, research etc. I just think the "rules" need revised so premium tags are available to all sportsmen equally (those with and without deep pockets)...I know many will disagree, this is just how I see the issue. And again, I hold no ill-will towards those that pay for these tags...I wish I could do the same!! Maybe instead of an auction or a raffle give these tags as incentives to landowners who allow youth hunts or disabled hunts? Or save the eastside elk raffle tag for landowners that enroll in the FFTH program...every 50 (or 100..)?? acres a landowner enrolls in FFTH gets a raffle ticket for a coveted tag...that would be a real win-win...yea it would still be wealthy folks who own lots of land having the highest chance of getting a coveted tag but it would have direct and immediate impacts on the average hunters opportunity.
What is the difference between him paying tens of thousands to hunt and the rest of us paying a couple thousand?
Quote from: jackelope on September 23, 2013, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: idahohuntr on September 23, 2013, 02:51:17 PMQuote from: huntnphool on September 23, 2013, 01:25:20 PM What is the difference between him paying tens of thousands to hunt and the rest of us paying a couple thousand? It is not the hiring of a guide or paying trespass fees that I have an issue with...it is how the state allocates very limited resources that I am concerned with (i.e., branch bull tags). I think as many of us have stated if we had the money we would do the exact same thing...so I am not saying those who buy the governors tag or spend 20k on raffle tickets are doing anything wrong...they are playing by the rules and providing money to support habitat, research etc. I just think the "rules" need revised so premium tags are available to all sportsmen equally (those with and without deep pockets)...I know many will disagree, this is just how I see the issue. And again, I hold no ill-will towards those that pay for these tags...I wish I could do the same!! Maybe instead of an auction or a raffle give these tags as incentives to landowners who allow youth hunts or disabled hunts? Or save the eastside elk raffle tag for landowners that enroll in the FFTH program...every 50 (or 100..)?? acres a landowner enrolls in FFTH gets a raffle ticket for a coveted tag...that would be a real win-win...yea it would still be wealthy folks who own lots of land having the highest chance of getting a coveted tag but it would have direct and immediate impacts on the average hunters opportunity. 5 TICKET CAP ON RAFFLE TICKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ive been saying the same thing since it's inception!
I have no problem with him having money and buying the tags. I have no problem with him hiring any guide he chooses. Don't care if he shoots a rag horn or 400" bull. I do have a problem with the guide having the client sit in a hotel room until the guide calls him to come up on the mountain and shoot the bull like Mossback is know to do. This was their tactic on a lot of bulls in the past I don't know about this bull, but last year mossback had a client not for sure it was this guy but someone with a gov tag or raffle tag telling people they will pay them $$$ for 400" bull and the client was in the hotel room waiting for a call to come shoot one not out hunting himself. That is BS in my opinion not hunting or a good way to portray it! Your opinions on this? This is my opinion and would like to hear yours.
Quote from: huntnphool on September 23, 2013, 03:08:48 PMQuote from: jackelope on September 23, 2013, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: idahohuntr on September 23, 2013, 02:51:17 PMQuote from: huntnphool on September 23, 2013, 01:25:20 PM What is the difference between him paying tens of thousands to hunt and the rest of us paying a couple thousand? It is not the hiring of a guide or paying trespass fees that I have an issue with...it is how the state allocates very limited resources that I am concerned with (i.e., branch bull tags). I think as many of us have stated if we had the money we would do the exact same thing...so I am not saying those who buy the governors tag or spend 20k on raffle tickets are doing anything wrong...they are playing by the rules and providing money to support habitat, research etc. I just think the "rules" need revised so premium tags are available to all sportsmen equally (those with and without deep pockets)...I know many will disagree, this is just how I see the issue. And again, I hold no ill-will towards those that pay for these tags...I wish I could do the same!! Maybe instead of an auction or a raffle give these tags as incentives to landowners who allow youth hunts or disabled hunts? Or save the eastside elk raffle tag for landowners that enroll in the FFTH program...every 50 (or 100..)?? acres a landowner enrolls in FFTH gets a raffle ticket for a coveted tag...that would be a real win-win...yea it would still be wealthy folks who own lots of land having the highest chance of getting a coveted tag but it would have direct and immediate impacts on the average hunters opportunity. 5 TICKET CAP ON RAFFLE TICKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ive been saying the same thing since it's inception! What would be the difference between that and a really expensive draw application? The raffle fits in the middle ground between the auction tag and the Quality Bull draws. I'm not even close to being a fan of the WDFW's management strategies, but seems like the raffle fits into the grand scheme of things pretty well.
I am not a fan of finder's fees or a bounty put on an animal's head.
Actually the guy last year bought ten tickets and won the raffle
