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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2013, 09:18:48 AM »
This is great. I am glad to see  people love the outdoors and help their buddies.  But no-one has explained why he is advertising a non existent guide service ? Most businesses  don't advertise til they are in business. 
This is all I want to know.  And no-one seems to want to answer it 
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2013, 10:13:21 AM »
This is great. I am glad to see  people love the outdoors and help their buddies.  But no-one has explained why he is advertising a non existent guide service ? Most businesses  don't advertise til they are in business. 
This is all I want to know.  And no-one seems to want to answer it

He has a guide service legally from the state.  He is not allowed to charge people in the Blues though.  That is why he does it for free.  No crime doing that.  Why would anyone want to see a hunter who has waited so long to draw a quality tag waist it because they can't afford to pay an outfitter.  Any true hunter out there would do the same thing for someone else.

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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2013, 10:20:58 AM »
....This is WAY better than Days of our lives.

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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2013, 12:39:12 PM »
This is great. I am glad to see  people love the outdoors and help their buddies.  But no-one has explained why he is advertising a non existent guide service ? Most businesses  don't advertise til they are in business. 
This is all I want to know.  And no-one seems to want to answer it

He has a guide service legally from the state.  He is not allowed to charge people in the Blues though.  That is why he does it for free.  No crime doing that.  Why would anyone want to see a hunter who has waited so long to draw a quality tag waist it because they can't afford to pay an outfitter.  Any true hunter out there would do the same thing for someone else.
That's cool.  Where is his territory?
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2013, 02:40:44 PM »
I dont know all the rules and don't care to involve myself in that. I do commend luke for packing 3 general season bucks out of the wilderness for his clients. Not many people can do that on their backs!!! Heck that's tough if you have mules.  :tup:

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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2013, 02:54:53 PM »
I'm writing this post in response to Mr. Dave Waldron's (AKA mtncook) slander and accusations of illegal guiding activities of Luke Carrick in the Wenaha Wilderness.  First, let me begin by saying that I am new to this forum, and the only reason I registered here was to post this rebuttal.  I don't know anyone within the guiding/outfitting industry of Washington State, and frankly I have no desire to.  I am a hunter myself, one who prides himself on physical challenge and achieving personal goals.  That's why I choose to hunt the backcountry with other like-minded individuals. 

Luke has been a friend of mine for the better part of 8 years and I can say that he is by far one of the most honest, and selfless people I know.  The only people that I can compare his character to are those special operators with whom I served during my time in the military; people who would do anything for you, with hearts bigger than their chests can hold.  Luke's integrity and passion for the hunt is in fact beyond reproach.  He does what he does because he loves it; he loves to see the happiness in another hunters eyes when they make the shot of a lifetime.  Mr. Waldron Sir, Luke doesn't "coach" his friends on what to say.  He tells them like it is; "I'm going to take you hunting, and I can't take your money.  I'm going to do this because I love it, and I love the mountains. I'll give you 110% of my efforts, whatever it takes to get it done."  Mr. Waldron, I'll also ask you if you know the definition of "Rogue"? To call a man a deceitful an unreliable scoundrel without any founding other than suspicion is downright slander.  Further, in any other professional industry such claims could incite legal action.

Mr. Waldron, I was the other hunter on that trailhead when we ran into you and your pack train on our way out from that bear hunt; which was successful I might add. Your behavior was totally unprofessional and totally out of line. Making the accusations you made in the presence of a very, very well known outdoor writer while on public lands were astounding and shocking. I'll leave out the name of that writer, as well as the publication the article will be printed in. I can assure you your comments weren't well received and will be mentioned. The comments you made about who Luke's family is, and the conditions of his marriage are none of your business Sir, and I commend Luke on how he handled that situation. I can't say that I would have been able to exercise such restraint.

Could I see your frustrations if Luke were conducting illegal activities in the Wenaha? Absolutely. But how hard is it to accept that he really does drive from Yakima as much as he does, and spend so much time in the mountains without receiving compensation? How hard is it to accept that his passion is what drives him? And, your words of "That love will only take you so far", as you spoke on the trail that day couldn't be farther from the reality of life.  Maybe it's time you took a look at why it is that you do what you do. My suspicion is that your frustration stems from the fact that you know Luke is very, very good at what he does. From a business perspective, dare I say that it was pretty foolish not to bring him into your operation. I am a business man of sort myself, and I would pay a pretty penny for a resume like Mr. Carrick's if it was in line with my profession.

I hope this post is enlightening to those who are following it. I only made this post to bring light to the facts. The act of taking someone into the mountains, on public land, to help them fulfill their dream is, in a way, guiding. One doesn't necessarily need to accept monies to call themselves a guide. Do those that guide us through life accept monies for their efforts? I know from personal experience that there are still people that exist in this world that are truly selfless. Many volunteer their time and a good portion of their lives to the care of our Nation's wounded warriors and their families, for nothing more than the satisfaction that they are doing the right thing. Look at the big picture and don't be so quick to judge a man based on the unfounded assumptions of another. I'll continue to hunt the Wenaha with Luke. There are too many more miles to cover, too many more adventures to undertake and too many more well deserved slaps on the back to ever quit.   

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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2013, 03:32:27 PM »
Seems to be a lot of people stepping up to support this Luke. It's disheartening to see sportsmen slander each other on the internet.
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2013, 03:48:34 PM »
Yes alot of support. ..its good to be a good friend and have great friends.  I am sure there are lots of people on here that would love to  be guided by Luke..
So for all to know how do you contact and where does guiderite guide at?
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #113 on: November 10, 2013, 04:01:01 PM »
I'm writing this post in response to Mr. Dave Waldron's (AKA mtncook) slander and accusations of illegal guiding activities of Luke Carrick in the Wenaha Wilderness.  First, let me begin by saying that I am new to this forum, and the only reason I registered here was to post this rebuttal.  I don't know anyone within the guiding/outfitting industry of Washington State, and frankly I have no desire to.  I am a hunter myself, one who prides himself on physical challenge and achieving personal goals.  That's why I choose to hunt the backcountry with other like-minded individuals. 

Luke has been a friend of mine for the better part of 8 years and I can say that he is by far one of the most honest, and selfless people I know.  The only people that I can compare his character to are those special operators with whom I served during my time in the military; people who would do anything for you, with hearts bigger than their chests can hold.  Luke's integrity and passion for the hunt is in fact beyond reproach.  He does what he does because he loves it; he loves to see the happiness in another hunters eyes when they make the shot of a lifetime.  Mr. Waldron Sir, Luke doesn't "coach" his friends on what to say.  He tells them like it is; "I'm going to take you hunting, and I can't take your money.  I'm going to do this because I love it, and I love the mountains. I'll give you 110% of my efforts, whatever it takes to get it done."  Mr. Waldron, I'll also ask you if you know the definition of "Rogue"? To call a man a deceitful an unreliable scoundrel without any founding other than suspicion is downright slander.  Further, in any other professional industry such claims could incite legal action.

Mr. Waldron, I was the other hunter on that trailhead when we ran into you and your pack train on our way out from that bear hunt; which was successful I might add. Your behavior was totally unprofessional and totally out of line. Making the accusations you made in the presence of a very, very well known outdoor writer while on public lands were astounding and shocking. I'll leave out the name of that writer, as well as the publication the article will be printed in. I can assure you your comments weren't well received and will be mentioned. The comments you made about who Luke's family is, and the conditions of his marriage are none of your business Sir, and I commend Luke on how he handled that situation. I can't say that I would have been able to exercise such restraint.

Could I see your frustrations if Luke were conducting illegal activities in the Wenaha? Absolutely. But how hard is it to accept that he really does drive from Yakima as much as he does, and spend so much time in the mountains without receiving compensation? How hard is it to accept that his passion is what drives him? And, your words of "That love will only take you so far", as you spoke on the trail that day couldn't be farther from the reality of life.  Maybe it's time you took a look at why it is that you do what you do. My suspicion is that your frustration stems from the fact that you know Luke is very, very good at what he does. From a business perspective, dare I say that it was pretty foolish not to bring him into your operation. I am a business man of sort myself, and I would pay a pretty penny for a resume like Mr. Carrick's if it was in line with my profession.

I hope this post is enlightening to those who are following it. I only made this post to bring light to the facts. The act of taking someone into the mountains, on public land, to help them fulfill their dream is, in a way, guiding. One doesn't necessarily need to accept monies to call themselves a guide. Do those that guide us through life accept monies for their efforts? I know from personal experience that there are still people that exist in this world that are truly selfless. Many volunteer their time and a good portion of their lives to the care of our Nation's wounded warriors and their families, for nothing more than the satisfaction that they are doing the right thing. Look at the big picture and don't be so quick to judge a man based on the unfounded assumptions of another. I'll continue to hunt the Wenaha with Luke. There are too many more miles to cover, too many more adventures to undertake and too many more well deserved slaps on the back to ever quit.

Outstanding post!
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #114 on: November 10, 2013, 04:37:09 PM »
Hopefully this gets resolved....Sounds like a pretty stand up guy to me  :tup:
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #115 on: November 11, 2013, 08:33:06 AM »
I also am an acquaintance of Luke and he does his homework and spends alot of time studying maps and putting in the miles to find his friends great areas to hunt regardless of the draw unit.  But for some odd reason he still thinks that there are elk in the Blues  :chuckle:
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #116 on: November 11, 2013, 08:48:13 AM »
Yes alot of support. ..its good to be a good friend and have great friends.  I am sure there are lots of people on here that would love to  be guided by Luke..
So for all to know how do you contact and where does guiderite guide at?


You don't really expect an answer to that do you?

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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #117 on: November 11, 2013, 08:55:42 AM »
I did a business lic name look up can no business for GuideRote Adventures or anything owned by Luke Carrick in Washington. I know that in NF that does not require guide/Outfitter special use permits does require a valid Business license from the state.   

He looks like a stand up guy and a great outdoorsman but we still don't have an answer to the question many have been asking. If Luke does own a Guide service  how is one to find your services other than on MM and where do you guide that you are legal to do so without the need for a permitt?
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #118 on: November 11, 2013, 09:15:38 AM »
Playing neutral here....it's good to see support and it's possible that this is all in the up and up.  But.....IF that's the case, you'd have to admit that would be rare.   :twocents:

I enjoy hunting with people even if I'm not armed.  But, I'm not going to drive hundreds of miles on a routine basis to do it.  Guess I'm a tight wad  :chuckle:
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Re: Blues News 2013
« Reply #119 on: November 11, 2013, 09:29:20 AM »
I did a business lic name look up can no business for GuideRote Adventures or anything owned by Luke Carrick in Washington. I know that in NF that does not require guide/Outfitter special use permits does require a valid Business license from the state.   

He looks like a stand up guy and a great outdoorsman but we still don't have an answer to the question many have been asking. If Luke does own a Guide service  how is one to find your services other than on MM and where do you guide that you are legal to do so without the need for a permitt?

I also think it has been shown that Luke seems to be a good guy, I also think it would be good to know about where Guiderite services in WA, if anything, for my own knowledge :)

 


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