Blues News 2013

[rychek]

I agree. Duck!

[rosscrazyelk]

In closing for me  everyone can believe what they want. I have chosen to believe that no matter how good of a guy Luke is he chose the wrong way to do it. I choose to believe he purposly chose the word "client" and also advertising himself on other sites.  He is using pictures from harvest mostly from a area he will not be guiding in. When I look at business/outfitters that I am interested in, besides looking at the referals I also look at the pictures so I know what quality of animals are in that outfitters area.  I am curious what you will tell people when they want animals like the pictures you show? my suggestion would get a territiry take pics of your harvest so people can see what quality of animals you have In your area. Showing you are successful is one thing, every outfit can do that but showing the animals you have in your area is where it counts.
I also have chosen to believe my friend when he says Luke solicited him at the trail head and said you are a guide.. Regardless if you are doing it for free you are soliciting business. Business that should be directed towards mountain cook if they are interested in a guide.
I wish you well

[trophyhunt]

In closing for me  everyone can believe what they want. I have chosen to believe that no matter how good of a guy Luke is he chose the wrong way to do it. I choose to believe he purposly chose the word "client" and also advertising himself on other sites.  He is using pictures from harvest mostly from a area he will not be guiding in. When I look at business/outfitters that I am interested in, besides looking at the referals I also look at the pictures so I know what quality of animals are in that outfitters area.  I am curious what you will tell people when they want animals like the pictures you show? my suggestion would get a territiry take pics of your harvest so people can see what quality of animals you have In your area. Showing you are successful is one thing, every outfit can do that but showing the animals you have in your area is where it counts.
I also have chosen to believe my friend when he says Luke solicited him at the trail head and said you are a guide.. Regardless if you are doing it for free you are soliciting business. Business that should be directed towards mountain cook if they are interested in a guide.
I wish you well

tough to argue that, you pretty much summed it up Ross. I can see why your probably done here, you've had a good argument from the start and you have done your homework.

[BDT]

In my opinion I think there should be permits for Outfitters and separate permits for guiding.  To me they are two different things.  Mtncook to me is an outfitter, not a guide.  For the last few years I have hunted the Blues I have never seen him actually out guiding any clients on foot.  He just packs in all of their steaks, potatoes, eggs, bacon, etc.  for their stay at base camp which he uses every season.  He is "Outfitting" them with all of the amenities from home. He drops them and their goods off and rides right back out.  Not staying with them and hiking miles and miles "guiding"  them on their hunt.  He has the rights to be an outfitter for a pretty big area and I have never ever seen him hunt where my group of friends hunt.  And for the comment on Luke soliciting a friend of rosscrazyelk,  if your friend is the guy that had a rifle tag this season he was not solicited by Luke.  Luke and I just packed out our deer that we both shot and he came over to talk to us.  He mentioned he was heading back in for his rifle hunt.  He was not using Mtncook or anyone for their services.  When Luke mentioned he would love to help, if he needed it, he asked for his cell number.  I was standing with both of them when Luke told him he would help for free.  Who would not want free help on a hunt,which for some of us, is a once in a lifetime hunt.  So when you say soliciting that just is not the truth.  I was a witness.  Once again he was not taking clients away from Mtncook.  Name just one person that was booked with Mtncook and canceled so they could go hunt with Luke.  NONE

[trophyhunt]

The only thing I can say about that is, mnt cook does guide. He has at least one guy that is very knowledgable about the area and elk hunting. I would gladly pay for his guiding service,  with 19 points this coming draw season, I hope I have that decision to make.

[JM]

If anyone is looking for an attorney I could use some clients. No charge. I don't have a liscence to practice but it will be on the house. Why would I do this you ask, well cause I like to argue.

I'm confused?? Aren't you allowed to pick your own defense licensed or not??? Heck if you've been practicing law for free for the last twenty years and have won lots of cases with lots of happy CLIENTS then what's your number?

 I think that licensed attorney's are way too expensive and I'm not able to afford them with me being a home owner and my wife being pregnant and going to school on my income

[JM]

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[2MANY]

A summary of things proven in this thread.
1) Dave owns the right to outfit/guide in his area.
2) Luke likes to hunt.

[jackelope]

A summary of things proven in this thread.
1) Dave owns the right to outfit/guide in his area.
2) Luke likes to hunt.

Solid synopsis.

[Jonathan_S]

A summary of things proven in this thread.
1) Dave owns the right to outfit/guide in his area.
2) Luke likes to hunt.

How dare you say that?!  What solid evidence do you have of either one of these things?

Oh never mind 

[wastickslinger]

And for the comment on Luke soliciting a friend of rosscrazyelk,  if your friend is the guy that had a rifle tag this season he was not solicited by Luke.  Luke and I just packed out our deer that we both shot and he came over to talk to us.  He mentioned he was heading back in for his rifle hunt.  He was not using Mtncook or anyone for their services.  When Luke mentioned he would love to help, if he needed it, he asked for his cell number.  I was standing with both of them when Luke told him he would help for free.  Who would not want free help on a hunt,which for some of us, is a once in a lifetime hunt.  So when you say soliciting that just is not the truth.  I was a witness.  Once again he was not taking clients away from Mtncook.  Name just one person that was booked with Mtncook and canceled so they could go hunt with Luke.  NONE

Im confused. The buck Luke killed is the one on MM right, a nice 4 point he is sitting behind? Caption says Luke and fine animals he and clients have taken this year. Here is the link again. http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID32/138.html

The day at the trail head there were 3 bucks, that 4 point pictured on MM was not one of them. He sat there and told me they were his clients bucks. I assumed he meant all 3. He was telling me how he got his clients in position to kill them and so on.  I assumed he meant all 3.  So was one of those 3 bucks his? Is that 4 point on MM really someone elses then?

BDT if your a freind that was swell of you to let him call you a cleint when he was over at my truck talking to me.

I just cant get over the whole "client" friend thing. That is what bothers me most. You guys that are standing up and saying no big deal its just wording. Well, I dare you to introduce your wife or girlfriend as a hooker. " He bob I want you to meet me lovely hooker, we have been togethere for 10 years. She means the world to me." 

I should learn when to shut my mouth but I just want to make it clear that I think its great that he wants to eventually make a great business guiding. I see nothing wrong with that. The whole point is that he needs to go about it legally. If they wont permit him in that area then he should do some homework and find another great spot. The state is full of great places to guide without an outfitter permit. There is a reason they only allow som many to outfit in one area.

[Lov2hunt]

It actually says hunters not clients and there were only 2 bucks in the truck not 3.

[rosscrazyelk]

It actually says hunters not clients and there were only 2 bucks in the truck not 3.

Actually it says Luke and HIS hunters. 

[Boss .300 winmag]

You don't need to be a tag holder just someone that loves to hunt and be in the outdoors! First come first serve. Guide is just a title (someone that assistance others in harvesting there trophy big game animal ) maybe that would be a better way to put it? I have a house and a little girl 3 year old daughter and a fulltime job. It's not easy but I make it happen! My daughter loves the outdoors just as much as her Daddy!

her you go this guy needs help with an Elk Special Permit! 

First time Bow hunter drew a multy season elk tag didn,t want to waist the bow side of it so i bought one took it out turkey hunting called in a nice tom killed it about 35 yards any way drew a any bull in the tootle was looking for a local guide service to help find me any bull first two weeks of Dec. any ideas I'm new to the forum hope I'm doing this right Thanks for any help

[Boss .300 winmag]

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Hello all,

My brother and I drew cow tags as mentioned in the subject line.  Saw lots of easily shootable elk in the general season, just no spikes...  So, would really like to capitalize on this cow tag in the Teanaway.  Don't know the area that well, but at that time of year, I would guess the cows would be down in the valleys feeding and then finding a place to hide during the day. Don't know of any private land to hunt on, so that'll make things more difficult.
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here is one more.

i should start hunting harmony.com, this is fun.