collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor  (Read 6285 times)

Offline blackdog

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 637
  • Location: Coastal
  • Advocate ..

Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39214
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 09:34:32 AM »
Very interesting. It's good to see some politicians are at least thinking about the issue, and working to come up with solutions. Although I seriously doubt anything will change for the better.

Offline fluentvoo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Sep 2007
  • Posts: 117
  • Location: Graham, WA
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 09:43:06 AM »
I would agree with his initial claim that timber companies should be limited to profiting from permit sales if the land is considered no-tax or reduced-tax while not being actively logged.
What's more disturbing to me is the government quit claiming property to timber companies while its harvested, then the timber companies quit claiming it back. That seems corrupt to me.

Offline Curly

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Legend
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 20921
  • Location: Thurston County
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 09:45:26 AM »
Too bad the commissioner changed his mind.  Hopefully he is still thinking up solutions to the access problem.  Hopefully other counties follow suit. 
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.

><((((º>` ><((((º>. ><((((º>.¸><((((º>

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25060
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 09:49:43 AM »
Let me interpret this for some of you. He makes the comment, and then some one in industry or in his office says "Hey dummy do you realize you just made this office and yourself an enemy to an industry with DEEP pockets that employs lots of voters in this area! You might want to re think how your going to address this."
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

Offline dreamunelk

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 2049
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 09:56:38 AM »
This is a bad report on the part of the Daily world.  This still could happen.  Other counties and legislators are watching this.  What you need to do is call your commissioner and legislators and let them now how you feel about fee access. 

Offline 6x6in6

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2007
  • Posts: 3593
  • Location: Bellingham, WA
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 10:13:11 AM »
Let me interpret this for some of you. He makes the comment, and then some one in industry or in his office says "Hey dummy do you realize you just made this office and yourself an enemy to an industry with DEEP pockets that employs lots of voters in this area! You might want to re think how your going to address this."
:chuckle:

I think you just nailed it.

Online pianoman9701

  • Mushroom Man
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 45274
  • Location: Vancouver USA
  • Mortgage Licenses in WA, ID, & OR NMLS #2014743
    • www.facebook.com/johnwallacemortgage
    • John Wallace Mortgage
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 10:22:27 AM »
That's exactly what I thought when he changed his mind so quickly. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Blackdog.
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace https://valoaneducator.tv/johnwallace-2014743

Offline blackdog

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 637
  • Location: Coastal
  • Advocate ..
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2013, 11:23:15 AM »
Listen to dreamunelk this County Commission is going to pursue this! They need your support. The reporting is inaccurrate. Now is not the time to get lazy or complacent. People are watching to gauge whether hunters care about this issue.
 :hello:

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25060
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 11:49:58 AM »
Don't get me wrong, if the timber companies want to keep tax breaks then tey need to keep the forrests open. I just stated my reaction to the article.
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

Offline huntrights

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 1701
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 12:21:13 PM »

This may be a good opportunity to bring timber companies, hunters, and politicians together to work toward a positive solution that will work for all.

Offline fireweed

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2009
  • Posts: 1307
  • Location: Toutle, Wa
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 09:48:51 AM »
Its too bad this commissioner commented before sitting down and seriously talking with the assessor to figure out how property taxes work.  There really is no "Tax Break"  here, instead it is a TAX SHIFT.  Timber companies, and other "current use" lands pay taxes on less than fair market value, which makes the rate go up for everyone else.  If big timber paid more, no more taxes would be collected, and the rate would drop a little for everyone else.  If existing property is reclassified and valued differently, the amount collected overall doesn't change, it's just reshuffled.  In conservative Grays Harbor,  tax raises won't fly--but readjusting the tax shift--timber pays more and everybody else pays a little less--is only fair if public benefits are taken away.  (and affects way more voters, too.)

Offline Curly

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Legend
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 20921
  • Location: Thurston County
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2013, 10:32:12 AM »
In conservative Grays Harbor

I could be wrong, but last I checked the people in Grays Harbor would not be classified as conservative.  They almost always vote democrat.  :twocents:
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.

><((((º>` ><((((º>. ><((((º>.¸><((((º>

Offline snowpack

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2013
  • Posts: 2522
  • Location: the high country
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2013, 11:13:40 AM »
In conservative Grays Harbor

I could be wrong, but last I checked the people in Grays Harbor would not be classified as conservative.  They almost always vote democrat.  :twocents:
Strangely there are some 'conservative' Dems.  Hargrove is Dem from Hoquiam and is rather conservative.  It really annoys the liberals around the peninsula.  But they'll vote a conservative D before any R.

Offline blackdog

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 637
  • Location: Coastal
  • Advocate ..
Re: Timber Company Access in Grays Harbor
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2013, 12:12:10 PM »
The Commissioner understands the tax shift involved.  :)

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

No upland with dog during deer and elk season? by GWP
[Today at 10:51:18 AM]


Possible record bull? by time2hunt
[Today at 10:48:01 AM]


Poll: Supreme Court will decide if 'habitual drug users' lose their gun rights by jrebel
[Today at 10:45:18 AM]


E WA waterfowl guide by GWP
[Today at 10:38:50 AM]


Comment against Ski Resort expanding into Colockum elk/deer habitat by codybear
[Today at 10:36:11 AM]


East Side by lovetogrouse
[Today at 10:25:04 AM]


Weatherby Vanguard vs. Browning x bolt by IdeehoT
[Today at 09:13:13 AM]


West side antler buyers by IdeehoT
[Today at 09:08:16 AM]


Bearpaw Season 2025 by bearpaw
[Today at 08:47:12 AM]


Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal by bearpaw
[Today at 08:32:14 AM]


2025 blacktail rut thread by dreadi
[Today at 08:09:53 AM]


Where do the bulls go? by Rob
[Today at 07:45:50 AM]


Let’s see ur heavy pack out pics by fowl smacker
[Today at 06:27:55 AM]


Pack wheel by CP
[Today at 06:26:07 AM]


Anyone use game carts? by jhouckwsu
[Today at 05:59:36 AM]


GMU 368 Nasty Creek Rd Access (Gate) by Kingofthemountain83
[Yesterday at 09:36:40 PM]


FS Surbu BFG 50 by Tacticalhammer
[Yesterday at 09:36:18 PM]


Winthrop - Winter Range Road Closures by Kingofthemountain83
[Yesterday at 08:55:31 PM]


Mushroom ID Thread by MLHSN
[Yesterday at 08:50:05 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal