HOYT Charger?

[RadSav]

Never mind - Google found it! Are these Mission Ballistic bows available in left handed models?

In case you didn't notice on the website "Mission" is the value priced division of "Mathews".

Yes, all Mission bows are available in left hand options.

[WaSouthpaw]

Tonight I went thru a book I had in my library written by Dave Holt titled Balanced Bowhunting.  Digging into the book he writes about some basic rules of thumb regarding fps vs arrow weight change and also fps vs draw weight change.  I am reading that the charger has a IBO rating of 325 fps.  Using Dave's rules of thumb, I come up with 277 fps out of the Charger @ 60lbs with a 540gr arrow.  I think I may have made a mistake putting $150 into my old Martin Lynx. 

I guess I had to see it in a spreadsheet before I saw the light!

Live and learn, Don

[RadSav]

Tonight I went thru a book I had in my library written by Dave Holt titled Balanced Bowhunting.  Digging into the book he writes about some basic rules of thumb regarding fps vs arrow weight change and also fps vs draw weight change.  I am reading that the charger has a IBO rating of 325 fps.  Using Dave's rules of thumb, I come up with 277 fps out of the Charger @ 60lbs with a 540gr arrow.  I think I may have made a mistake putting $150 into my old Martin Lynx. 

That would be roughly correct if you were shooting 70# and a 30" draw length.  But, would not be correct if shooting 60#, a shorter draw length or a combination of the two.  A 540 grain arrow shot in a Charger with 30" draw length and set at 60# would be in the neighborhood of 250 fps.  Same arrow in a 29"/60# bow would be in the neighborhood of 245 fps.

While a very good and well written book, Mr. Holt wrote that book back in 1988 when AMO standards were common place and IBO standards were pretty much unheard of.  540 grain arrow is an AMO standard arrow weight.  325 fps is the Hoyt Charger's IBO rating and 251 fps is it's AMO rating.  Two completely different measuring systems.  http://www.archeryexchange.com/shopcontent.asp?type=amoibo

If you were to shoot a Charger at 60# with a 300 grain IBO arrow @ 30" draw length you'd still be very close to the IBO rated speed (321 fps).  Thus the reason it has become a very well accepted standard of measure.  And of course manufactures jump all over it because it makes the bows seem much faster and they sell better that way!

Now for a more practical measurement lets take a 29"/60# Hoyt Charger with a 6 grain per inch "Washington" WDFW legal minimum arrow (360 grains).  You will have a hard time achieving that at 60# from the Charger due to arrow shaft choices, but let's assume you find a matched arrow shaft that allows it.  You could expect to achieve an arrow velocity of approximately 290 fps.

[D-Rock425]

I would really try to get the 2013 model.  Looked at them side by side today and the 2013 looks cleaner to me. 

[WaSouthpaw]

I would really try to get the 2013 model.  Looked at them side by side today and the 2013 looks cleaner to me.

And where might that have been? A pro shop? I saw a RH version of the Charger at Van Winkles on Thursday. Thanks, Don

[WaSouthpaw]

I figured those "old rules of thumb" of Mr. Holts would be contested. 
Sounds like my old book "Tuning Your Compound Bow 2nd Edition" by Larry Wise may not be applicable too.
1st, where did you find the AMO Rating on the Charger?
2nd, are AMO ratings available (or published) on other bows?
I am thinking I am still caught up in the old way of thinking about light weight arrows (5-6 grs/lb) being difficult to get to fly straight. My concern with a 360gr arrow is that it may not be practical for hunting purposes and that an arrow in the 450 to 475 gr range would be more realistic.
I will be switching from 125 gr tips to 100 gr tips for my old Martin Lynx.
If I purchase a new bow, should I be looking at 75 - 85 gr tips as a more appropriate choice for a 55-60 lb modern bow using modern carbon arrows?

Thanks, Don

[D-Rock425]

I would stay with a 100grain tip. The reason to stick with 100 grain head is it will give you the most broadhead options and give you a little better FOC. A 360 arrow out of a 60# bow will kill anything you can hunt in Washington.  Now for the reasons I think the 2013 charger is better than the 2014 model.  I think hoyt cut a few corners with the 14 model and tried to cut the cost down.  Limb pockets look cheaper and so is the grip.

[scottcrb]

I bought the 2013 charger last July at the Nock point and it has been great so far. I also shot some Matthews and mission and bowtech. For my price range it came down to the mission and the Hoyt.been great haven't looked back except for the bowtech experience but that way out of my price range. I think Nock point has some 2013 left.

[Sethwerf]

I love the 2014 charger. I looked at some pse, bowtech, mission and they shot great but the charger just felt better. Shoots quiet and smooth. They have a package deal but for the extra 150 it seems you can pick up something that may fit you better and still be in that same price range. Try and find somewhere that will let you shoot the bow and see what feels best for you in your price range.

[Greg Mullins]

Id look for a 2013 charger.2014 went to plastic limb pockets 2013 is built a bit better.Just my