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Author Topic: HB 2342 Would Prohibit Public Access to Bodies of Water if there is No Parking  (Read 10249 times)

Offline snowpack

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what is adequate parking anyways?  For trout season, you get a max of three fisherman on one day so you have three parking spots---adequate.  When the Chinook arrive, you get 1,000 fisherman and they are parked all over the shoulders and in people's driveways--inadequate.  So, do you just close it during certain seasons?  Would the first three people that get there have full access and the other 997 have to go elsewhere?

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This one gets a solid no.  There are already parking enforcement laws.  We don't need another one.
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This one gets a solid no.  There are already parking enforcement laws.  We don't need another one.

This one is more along the lines of trespass then parking enforcement

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This one gets a solid no.  There are already parking enforcement laws.  We don't need another one.

This one is more along the lines of trespass then parking enforcement


 Meaning trespassing on public property?
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This one gets a solid no.  There are already parking enforcement laws.  We don't need another one.
This one is more along the lines of trespass then parking enforcement
Meaning trespassing on public property?

Basically. It's basically saying "your prohibited from using these public lands to get to the water". The offense would be a misdemeanor, not a parking citation. You can run around on those lands all you want, but if your using the land to access the water you'll have a mandatory court date.

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This one gets a solid no.  There are already parking enforcement laws.  We don't need another one.
This one is more along the lines of trespass then parking enforcement
Meaning trespassing on public property?

Basically. It's basically saying "your prohibited from using these public lands to get to the water". The offense would be a misdemeanor, not a parking citation. You can run around on those lands all you want, but if your using the land to access the water you'll have a mandatory court date.
Nanny state again....
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but accessing the water via inlet or outlet would be allowed sine this is not publicly owned correct?
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but accessing the water via inlet or outlet would be allowed sine this is not publicly owned correct?

The law just has to do with lands. If I want to get to XYZ lake/river/creek and there is a 5 acre chunk of DNR land between the lake and the road, I wouldn't be able to use that DNR land to access XYZ lake/river/creek unless DNR establishes a parking area.

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Doesn't mention if the parking has to be on the actual land or 1/2 mile away from the land as long as adequate parking is provided.
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I've got a call into his office for explanation of why he sponsored this bill. His assistant told me to expect a call on Friday. Thanks for posting this Bigtex. You're a huge asset with stuff like this.  :tup:
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Doesn't mention if the parking has to be on the actual land or 1/2 mile away from the land as long as adequate parking is provided.

You are correct but the bill does say "governmental entity which has jurisdiction of the land must provide adequate public parking for persons utilizing the land to access the water." Basically means if DNR is the owner, DNR must provide adequate parking for persons utilizing the land.

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I've got a call into his office for explanation of why he sponsored this bill. His assistant told me to expect a call on Friday. Thanks for posting this Bigtex. You're a huge asset with stuff like this.  :tup:

Not a problem. And as of this time, he is the only sponsor.

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His assistant said the bill was requested by a constituent. I'm imagining a fairly well-off constituent with waterfront property who threw him a fundraiser before his election. Just a guess.
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His assistant said the bill was requested by a constituent. I'm imagining a fairly well-off constituent with waterfront property who threw him a fundraiser before his election. Just a guess.

Sure would be nice if every constituent could have a bill made to their liking  :twocents:

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Another stupid politician wasting everyone's time at the Capitol instead of representing the majority of the people.  Wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out that either he or his affluent friends own waterfront property adjacent to public lands.

 


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