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Offline aorams

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Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« on: January 15, 2014, 08:25:00 PM »
Am I ok to target elk using the following equipment?

Parker Pioneer XP compound bow set at

70lbs

28" Draw

shooting 397grain (5.7grains/pound, but haven't picked a broadhead) at

255-265 fps

with a kinetic energy of 59.6

Using  a 3 pin sight

I can consistently shoot softball size groups at 30 yards?

Thanks for the input!

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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 08:31:04 PM »
Arrows have to be 6gpp to be legal here. Bump that arrow weight up a little, or drop your poundage a tad and you'll be good to go. It's all about arrow placement, just don't get carried away with how far you shoot.  :tup:

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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2014, 08:31:08 PM »
It's going to be very tempting to push that 30 yards out to 40+ while Elk hunting.


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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2014, 08:34:45 PM »
Pick a heavier arrow and get a sold foc and your fine :tup:

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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2014, 08:47:24 PM »
Arrows have to be 6gpp to be legal here. Bump that arrow weight up a little, or drop your poundage a tad and you'll be good to go. It's all about arrow placement, just don't get carried away with how far you shoot.  :tup:

Some good advice.

I will add that dropping the poundage is good idea.  You don't really need 70# and dropping some will make it easier to hold at full draw a little longer. 

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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 09:21:50 PM »
Yes your just about there.  :tup:
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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 09:55:51 PM »
Buy a new 90lb draw weight bow  :chuckle: only those will kill elk

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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2014, 12:19:01 AM »
Switch from a 100 grain broadhead to 125 grain broadhead and problems solved. Legal arrow. Thats one option... or if you like 100g heads, find some brass inserts which weigh in arround 38-100 grains depending on where you can find them and problem solved. What you decide to do is up to you.
If it was me id just go to a 125g head.
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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2014, 11:42:20 AM »
Are your arrows 397 without a tip?

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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2014, 07:33:00 PM »
Are your arrows 397 without a tip?

I'm fairly certain that it is including the tip.  Which speaking to Smossy's advice, are 125 grains...  Sounds like dropping the draw weight would incur the least cost?
I was assuming you currently have 100 grain tips. That's the only way my math adds up for 397-400g arrows. You need to be in the 420 range, which coming from a 100g head to a 125g head should put you just barely over the legal limit.

6g x 70lbs = 420g minimum.

If you did as I said before you'd meet requirements, If you just want to reduce your draw weight to 65/66lbs you'd make due with what arrows you have now.
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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2014, 05:46:31 PM »
Screw it. Buying a bowtech experience next month.
Lol why, whats the problem now?
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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2014, 07:39:37 PM »
Screw it. Buying a bowtech experience next month.
Lol why, whats the problem now?

No real problem.  But after looking into it further I find it impressive what additional arrow speed can do.  I like the idea of being able to shoot heavier arrows faster with more kinetic energy and more momentum.  I figure I can afford the additional edge.  I'm sure glad this forum exists though.  It would be difficult to navigate and keep in perspective all of today's new technology without it.
All that stuff is hogwash, as long as your putting your arrows where they need to be and they're razor sharp, thats all that matters.
I used to think like you, Concerned all about the numbers. Now the only thing I care about is straight arrow flight, sharp broadheads, and if anything my FOC. Thats it.
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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2014, 07:41:01 PM »
Screw it. Buying a bowtech experience next month.
Lol why, whats the problem now?

No real problem.  But after looking into it further I find it impressive what additional arrow speed can do.  I like the idea of being able to shoot heavier arrows faster with more kinetic energy and more momentum.  I figure I can afford the additional edge.  I'm sure glad this forum exists though.  It would be difficult to navigate and keep in perspective all of today's new technology without it.
All that stuff is hogwash, as long as your putting your arrows where they need to be and they're razor sharp, thats all that matters.

 :yeah:

I agree. Save your money and work on tightening your groups with the gear you have.




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Re: Is my gear up to snuff for elk?
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2014, 07:25:12 AM »
Screw it. Buying a bowtech experience next month.
Lol why, whats the problem now?

No real problem.  But after looking into it further I find it impressive what additional arrow speed can do.  I like the idea of being able to shoot heavier arrows faster with more kinetic energy and more momentum.  I figure I can afford the additional edge.  I'm sure glad this forum exists though.  It would be difficult to navigate and keep in perspective all of today's new technology without it.
All that stuff is hogwash, as long as your putting your arrows where they need to be and they're razor sharp, thats all that matters.
I used to think like you, Concerned all about the numbers. Now the only thing I care about is straight arrow flight, sharp broadheads, and if anything my FOC. Thats it.

 :yeah: Bingo.

I spent two years trying to find the "perfect arrow" for my setup. I finally settle on a 420 grain 340 spine bone collector tipped with a hundred grain shuttle t going a BLAZING 250 fps...But dam would those arrows shoot straight. Got a pass through at 42 yards on a mature 6 point bull this year. After that, I finally realized it doesn't matter.

 


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