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Will range riders work in Washington?

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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2014, 07:24:53 AM »
I voted partially, but I think the main thing it will do is harass the wolves enough that they will increase their range more rapidly.

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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2014, 07:31:18 AM »
what does a job like that pay? what kind of bennys? i want that job  :tup: i dont mind shootn wolves or cats, i would think a range rider is there to serve and PROTECT, i could do lots of protecting, i can even ride a little, i wonder if a fella could ride a quad instead  :chuckle: i would hate to fall off a horse, thats along ways to the ground  :dunno:  :chuckle:
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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2014, 07:42:19 AM »
The ranchers that run sheep have their own range riders.

We don't need another corrupt government agency, WDFW, that is bought off by greenies monies, to start another new program that will fail and the hunter/public will end up footing for an action that will never work. Then, just like anything else that the government does, we can't get rid of it and it costs millions upon millions of dollars a year for nothing.


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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2014, 08:52:23 AM »
what does a job like that pay? what kind of bennys? i want that job  :tup: i dont mind shootn wolves or cats, i would think a range rider is there to serve and PROTECT, i could do lots of protecting, i can even ride a little, i wonder if a fella could ride a quad instead  :chuckle: i would hate to fall off a horse, thats along ways to the ground  :dunno:  :chuckle:

If this were put on by the ranchers through their association/s or even WDFW...I'd be in line with you, but it's not.
Cattlemen and WDFW help pay for it, Conservation Northwest hires the people and shares the cost .

They'd weed you out in a second.


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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2014, 09:16:50 AM »
The Cattleman's Association Banquet is Feb 8th in Colville.

985 South Elm Street
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$30 each
Social hour: 5pm
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Social hour
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Buy a ticket and show up. You might learn something that isn't being reported from the liberal media spin.


I'm going, how about you KF ?
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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2014, 09:19:00 AM »
what does a job like that pay? what kind of bennys? i want that job  :tup: i dont mind shootn wolves or cats, i would think a range rider is there to serve and PROTECT, i could do lots of protecting, i can even ride a little, i wonder if a fella could ride a quad instead  :chuckle: i would hate to fall off a horse, thats along ways to the ground  :dunno:  :chuckle:

If this were put on by the ranchers through their association/s or even WDFW...I'd be in line with you, but it's not.
Cattlemen and WDFW help pay for it, Conservation Northwest hires the people and shares the cost .

They'd weed you out in a second.

I think Conservation Northwest pays half and WDFW pays half.  :dunno:
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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2014, 09:26:28 AM »
The only thing I could find was "cost sharing",  I never came across anything stating which groups pay what %.



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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2014, 09:32:55 AM »
I know the person who was hired in my area to pilot this program and I can tell you that he is a friend of the cattlemen and not some hippy from the city.  I haven't talked with him much in the last couple of month or so since the cattle were brought in

That is very positive news!  I was worried they were hiring wolf advocates like the one in the wedge

The range rider at Smackout is a friend of the cattlemen too.
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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2014, 12:16:11 PM »
what does a job like that pay? what kind of bennys? i want that job  :tup: i dont mind shootn wolves or cats, i would think a range rider is there to serve and PROTECT, i could do lots of protecting, i can even ride a little, i wonder if a fella could ride a quad instead  :chuckle: i would hate to fall off a horse, thats along ways to the ground  :dunno:  :chuckle:

If this were put on by the ranchers through their association/s or even WDFW...I'd be in line with you, but it's not.
Cattlemen and WDFW help pay for it, Conservation Northwest hires the people and shares the cost .

They'd weed you out in a second.
my grandpa taught me to have a B.S in B.S i didnt see any wolves today boss  ;) ;) well why are you missing some rounds, oh yeah there was this rabid coyote that was chasing my horse/qaud and i had to scare him away or damn when i fell off my horse/qaud i must have lost a dozen, or i shot a few farmers cows to feed the wolves  ;) ;)  :chuckle:
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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2014, 12:20:36 PM »
Haven't read the article got as far as where it said Conservation Northwest was involved and quit anything that organization has to deal with is not anything I want to be involved with or support. Conservation Northwest = Northwest EcoSystem Alliance= Mitch Friedman Thanks But No thanks
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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2014, 06:12:31 PM »
Let the cattlemen, the landowner etc. hire the range riders and pay for them.  Keep WDFW completely out of it.   Will range riders work...no clue.   
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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2014, 06:20:39 PM »
Let the cattlemen, the landowner etc. hire the range riders and pay for them.  Keep WDFW completely out of it.   Will range riders work...no clue.

Read this if you care too:

http://stevenscountycattlemen.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/do-wolves-only-eat-cattle-on-public-land/



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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2014, 08:08:13 PM »
I think it's a silly idea. We can ride out and check our own cattle if it comes to that, no sense in paying the state to do it. The bonus is if I do it myself I know the "range rider" will not have a problem putting high velocity projectiles into animals that threaten the business.

If they are enough of a problem that the state needs to kill them, then it's time to open a season. Make it a special drawing or whatever you want but stop the stupidity.

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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2014, 08:23:45 PM »
If you got a small operation on a couple hundred acres, ya.

toss out 200 cattle on a 30 mile long range in brush you can't see 100 feet though, you'd need help.

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Re: Range Riders
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2014, 08:36:54 PM »
If you got a small operation on a couple hundred acres, ya.

toss out 200 cattle on a 30 mile long range in brush you can't see 100 feet though, you'd need help.

If that was directed at me we're well over 200 head.

I realize this is a program for outfits that lease ground up in the trees not for places that own outright most of what we graze. I still think it's a dead end idea. I've shot coyotes out of the barn yard before (yes I know coyotes and wolves are different animals). I know other ranchers that have had bears or cougars in their barn yards. I do not believe someone riding around on a horse is going to keep wolves from killing things unless the person on the horse is killing the wolves first.

 


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