600 elk shot in Winston cause of hoof rot?

[gonehuntin68]

Herd that the Wardens shot 600 elk in the Winston creek unit that had hoof rot. Wanted to know if this was true?

[rackattack]

 

[Caseyd]

600?? 

I find that hard to believe

[Timberstalker]

I heard it was closer to 700.

[TheHunt]

I heard their goal was 900 and they could only find 600

[gonehuntin68]

Don't see why this is funny? Is there not 600 elk there? Or is it too hard for them to shoot 600 elk?

[bobcat]

Didn't someone post this same question a couple months ago? I wonder where this rumor is coming from? I doubt there's any truth to it.

[PlateauNDN]

I heard they released a pack of wolves and that was the only way to re duce the numbets by letting them eat the old and sick elk.

[dreamunelk]

Don't see why this is funny? Is there not 600 elk there? Or is it too hard for them to shoot 600 elk?

It is funny because it is ridiculous!  Whomever told you this is a liar or very gullible.  Either way I would not take what they say seriously in the future.

[Thehowler]

If that was true we have some bad *ss wardens in this state.

[Skillet]

Sounds like we got a department full of Chuck Norris clones.  Probably only used three 30-06 shells and 597 roundhouse kicks.

[Bob33]

It would be impossible for something like that to fly under the radar of both hunters and the general public.

If ten much less 600 elk were shot it would make front pages news somewhere.

[syoungs]

Sounds like we got a department full of Chuck Norris clones.  Probably only used three 30-06 shells and 597 roundhouse kicks.

your right.

3 shells to scare the elk towards the 2 wardens delivering said roundhouse kicks... even managed some to'fers! 

[7mm Bob]

I heard they released a pack of wolves and that was the only way to re duce the numbets by letting them eat the old and sick elk.

Don't laugh too loud, this will be the exact logic they use when they admit to transplanting wolves to western Washington

[jackmaster]

I heard they released a pack of wolves and that was the only way to re duce the numbets by letting them eat the old and sick elk.

Don't laugh too loud, this will be the exact logic they use when they admit to transplanting wolves to western Washington

it wouldnt suprise me one bit if thats the logic they used to move the wolves in, i dont have a problem with them whackn the elk if they have hoof rott! it would be nice to know there isnt a cure for it or something first though, or what exactly causes hoof rott, i have heard all kind of ideas on what causes it but i dont think anyone actually knows, so if it is a contagious disease, why not kill them before they infect more 

[boomstick]

There are wolves in the Winston unit so don't kid about I have proof.

[jackmaster]

There are wolves in the Winston unit so don't kid about I have proof.

ok so post it up, dont keep that kind of stuff all to yourself, its one of those secrets that needs to be let out 

[Bordercop]

I spoke to some WDFW wardens and biologist at the Sportsman Show. The have no idea where that started. The locals told the same story to by co-worker who went on a cow hunt there. A very reliable source from this forum also has no idea where this story started from.

[kentrek]

Dont know about wolves in the Winston..I figured they should be moving in on the east side of the mtn this year or so but after 3 trips so far this year I have yet to find any sign of them..il be hitting it real hard in the end of Feb an march to find em so if ya have info id really appreciate a pm of your experience 

Not to derail the tread lol I didnt know there was 600 elk in the winston left

[sirmissalot]

I know for a fact there have been a number of elk killed in and around the saint Helens herd, in an effort to work on a fix for hoof rot. They kill them, take samples and study different stages of it as well as check for different strains etc. so to say if 10 elk were killed because of hoof rot it would make the news paper it's obviously not true, but it certainly wasn't 600 I'll tell you that.

I also know various people who have had to put down elk because the hoof rot was so bad they couldn't stand up anymore (myself included, and with a wardens permission).

[RadSav]

I heard that they contracted with the bigfoot aliens that live beneath Mt St. Helens.  WDFW supposedly got a screaming deal and didn't have to buy ammo as the bigfoot aliens kill them with the large boulders they usually throw into the river when hunters get too close.  A friend of my brothers neighbor has proof.

[Jonathan_S]

I heard that they contracted with the bigfoot aliens that live beneath Mt St. Helens.  WDFW supposedly got a screaming deal and didn't have to buy ammo as the bigfoot aliens kill them with the large boulders they usually throw into the river when hunters get too close.  A friend of my brothers neighbor has proof.

I'm friends with your brother's neighbor 

[bobcat]

The WDFW did kill a few elk for their study and it was in the news:

In March, WDFW killed 12 elk in Southwest Washington and four from east of the mountains and sent tissue samples to several laboratories across the U.S. for analysis. Some of it went to the University of Liverpool, England, because researchers there have experience with hoof rot in domesticated sheep.

This summer, the agency may collect calves that are only a few months old to see whether hoof rot is passed along from cows to calves.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/jun/10/no-answers-yet-southwest-washington-elk-hoof-rot/

[lostbackpacker]

I think they just hired Mick Dodge to do it. 

[ELKBURGER]

Thanks Bobcat.

[Bigshooter]

I think they just hired Mick Dodge to do it.

 

[Curly]

The WDFW did kill a few elk for their study and it was in the news:

In March, WDFW killed 12 elk in Southwest Washington and four from east of the mountains and sent tissue samples to several laboratories across the U.S. for analysis. Some of it went to the University of Liverpool, England, because researchers there have experience with hoof rot in domesticated sheep.

This summer, the agency may collect calves that are only a few months old to see whether hoof rot is passed along from cows to calves.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/jun/10/no-answers-yet-southwest-washington-elk-hoof-rot/

Well, that sort of explains the rumor.  12 + 4 = 16.     Someone heard a bio say 16 elk were shot and mistakenly thought that 16 sounded like 60.    60 elk then became 600 when someone texted about it and accidentally hit the 0 button twice.  Now we know how a dozen elk shot in the Winston became 600. 

 

[REHJWA]

With that math I heard it was 1200...

[gonehuntin68]

Thanks for the info guys.

[Old Man Yager]

Still waiting for the proof on the wolves in Winston........................

[boomstick]

January 1 2012 four sets of tracks together following a herd we spotted.

[Curly]

30-06 case?     Maybe a large coyote?

If 300 Weatherby, then maybe the track is large enough to be a wolf. 

[boomstick]

You can argue the point but three other saw all of they were all the same size and they coyote tracks early that day we saw are have the size.  Coyote tracks also don't have as sharpe of a front point. You had to be there.

[Curly]

That sucks.  But on the bright side, I suppose that could help get to delisting faster if wolves can be confirmed there.  Was it reported to WDFW?

[Basket Rack]

Not to derail the tread lol I didnt know there was 600 elk in the winston left

That is exactly what I thought.

[gonehuntin68]

Not to derail the tread lol I didnt know there was 600 elk in the winston left

That is exactly what I thought.

I agree, I was just there and only seen 2.

[boomstick]

We had a January cow tag this year saw 1 bull first light heard 8 shots and finally found 13 head and killed a cow at 1 o'clock   

[Jonathan_S]

You can argue the point but three other saw all of they were all the same size and they coyote tracks early that day we saw are have the size.  Coyote tracks also don't have as sharpe of a front point. You had to be there.

As an -06 cartridge then it doesn't scream wolf to me.

There are plenty of coyotes that make tracks that size.  Most wolf tracks I've cut are bigger than my palm.

It wouldn't surprise me too much if there were wolves there, all I'm saying is this evidence is far from irrefutable.  Glad you got a cow 

[boomstick]

tracks as big as your palm in this state

[Jonathan_S]

  what are you saying/asking?

Are you asking if the wolf tracks are as big as my palm? 

[buckfvr]

freeze and thaw, freeze and thaw.......again, and again........

Thats how yote tracks turn into wolf tracks and bobcat tracks turn into lion tracks........

[Jonathan_S]

freeze and thaw, freeze and thaw.......again, and again........

Thats how yote tracks turn into wolf tracks and bobcat tracks turn into lion tracks........

You're right on that but I'm talking about tracks in the 113, 117, 121 GMUs, not Winston so it might be possible that I've seen actual wolf tracks   

[buckfvr]

In those units, I'd not be surprised...........I have seen tracks as well as stand ins.......unit 121.

[boomstick]

have you ever laid a 30-06 in your palm

[Jonathan_S]

have you ever laid a 30-06 in your palm

Plenty of times, though I'd rather have a .25-06 in my palm 

I'm not trying to discredit your belief that there are wolves in that area.  Once again...

all I'm saying is this evidence is far from irrefutable.  Glad you got a cow 

[boomstick]

if you look at a 30-06 over all length is 3.340  300 win mag 3.340 300 weatherby 3.550   the track is 3/4 of an inch longer than the 30-06 pictures sometime look deceiving

[Old Man Yager]

freeze and thaw, freeze and thaw.......again, and again........

Thats how yote tracks turn into wolf tracks and bobcat tracks turn into lion tracks........

I'm with you, that pick looks like it melted out , and got snowed in again. I wasn't there and I'm not an expert, just looks like thats what might make it look like a bigger track.

[scout/sniper]

The WDFW did kill a few elk for their study and it was in the news:

In March, WDFW killed 12 elk in Southwest Washington and four from east of the mountains and sent tissue samples to several laboratories across the U.S. for analysis. Some of it went to the University of Liverpool, England, because researchers there have experience with hoof rot in domesticated sheep.

This summer, the agency may collect calves that are only a few months old to see whether hoof rot is passed along from cows to calves.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/jun/10/no-answers-yet-southwest-washington-elk-hoof-rot/

This would be a positive contribution in a thread dedicated to hoof rot.