New to the permit game

[Tbob]

Okay so for some of us noobyz to the permit game in wa, I could use a little clarification on the terms used.. Like, what is an OIL tag? What's the difference between a bull permit and a quality elk permit? I though for S's and G's I might as well get into the game now. From reading all the posts it sounds like I'll never get drawn for any tags, but I can't win if I don't play so.. Thanks!

[trophyhunt]

OIL simple means once in a lifetime, like the bull moose, goat and sheep tags. I'm sure by the time I'm done typing an explanation for the rest, someone will beat me too it! If you want send me a PM with your number and I'll talk you through it on the phone.

[trophyhunt]

Raffle tags are not included in the OIL, you can draw those as many times as possible.  Quality elk is just tags that have a chance at elk in the rut, or chances at killing bigger bulls in area's that don't have over the counter tags for 3 point or better.  Bull tags are just slighter less quality and further out of the rut.  If you pick a quality tag with very little permits handed out, it may take you half a lifetime to draw (like me, 19 years so far) or you could draw with 1 point. Luck of the draw for sure.   

[Rainier10]

Yep and a quality bull/buck permit means they can charge twice the application fee than a bull/buck permit.    Actually quality is supposed to a better hunt because of bigger animals/less people/better timing of the hunt.

[MacAttack]

Don't mean to hijack, but this is my first time applying for special permits as well. With the regards to the oil tags, a bull moose is an oli, is anterless as well?

[Rainier10]

Don't mean to hijack, but this is my first time applying for special permits as well. With the regards to the oil tags, a bull moose is an oli, is anterless as well?

Antlerless is not OIL.  The bull moose is actually "any moose" and if you shoot any moose(bull, cow or calf) or once drawn you can't put in for those permits again.

[stevemiller]

Is a bull tag 3 point or better or is it as it says any bull?

[bobcat]

Is a bull tag 3 point or better or is it as it says any bull?

Depends on the permit. Some are any bull, some are 3 point minimum. If it says "any bull," it's any bull.

[Bob33]

You can read most everything you need to know about permits here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf

You can also pick up paper copies at any sporting goods store.

[stevemiller]

Is a bull tag 3 point or better or is it as it says any bull?

Depends on the permit. Some are any bull, some are 3 point minimum. If it says "any bull," it's any bull.

Clarification,Its an any bull in an any bull unit,same tag in a 3 point or better is a 3 point or better.Thanks for the clarification

[Bob33]

Is a bull tag 3 point or better or is it as it says any bull?

Depends on the permit. Some are any bull, some are 3 point minimum. If it says "any bull," it's any bull.

Clarification,Its an any bull in an any bull unit,same tag in a 3 point or better is a 3 point or better.Thanks for the clarification

An "any bull" permit in any unit, including "3 point or better" units is good for "any bull".

[stevemiller]

Ok,cause the any bull tag wont be in a 3 point or better unit anyway.  Unless you put in for a unit that is 3 point or better.If you put in for a unit that is 3 point or better your saying you can still get any bull?

[Bob33]

Ok,cause the any bull tag wont be in a 3 point or better unit anyway.  Unless you put in for a unit that is 3 point or better.If you put in for a unit that is 3 point or better your saying you can still get any bull?

There are lots and lots of "any bull" permits given out in areas that are three point minimum units for general seasons.

[stevemiller]

Sorry but you skipped around that question like a true politition,Are you saying with an any bull tag you can shoot a spike bull in a 3 point min. unit?

[Bob33]

Sorry but you skipped around that question like a true politition,Are you saying with an any bull tag you can shoot a spike bull in a 3 point min. unit?

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"Any.....bull". I'm not sure what part of that is not clear?