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sleeping bag
« on: May 27, 2014, 06:38:33 PM »
hi guy's was just wondering which sleeping bag everyone is using in the backcountry in the early season and in the late season.Thanks for your input

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 07:17:05 PM »
I ran a kifaru 20 degree slick bag last year. Really light and I prefer synthetic insulation. Only downside to it that I see is it is not very roomy in the standard size. Don't plan on changing anytime soon.
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 07:24:57 PM »
Last year I ran a BA grouse mountain this year Enlightened equipment rev 20 quilt
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 07:46:48 PM »
My go to bag is a Marmot Pinnacle 15 deg early and late.  Leave a bit unzipped in the early season but plenty warm on winter hunts for me.  On the late hunts I also use a Montbell dry-tec sleeping bag cover and love it.  Really keeps condensation off the bag an only weighs 6 oz

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 08:13:25 PM »
rei magma its warm for early season with no weather moving in but it ventalates well.
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 08:36:36 PM »
western mountaineering versalite. would sleep in at home if the wife would let me

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2014, 08:36:40 AM »
Marmot Helium. Used from 50s to teens no issues


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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 09:20:02 AM »
Banshee by mountain hardwear

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 07:13:30 PM »
hey thanks for the info guy's.

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 07:32:47 PM »
Marmot Sorcerer 15 degree bag for everything except car camping.
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2014, 04:03:44 PM »
Just picked up a Mountain Hardware 10 degree down bag. Weighs just under 2lbs. Got a smokin deal on it too. The girlfriend had a 30% off coupon she got from work. Saved me a hundred bucks!! Can't wait to get out and use it! Had been using a Northface synthetic bag the last ten years or so with zero problems. Just a bit heavier that's all.

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2014, 04:54:10 PM »
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2014, 05:03:09 PM »
I use a north face -0 for everything,not much more weight you can always un-zip if your to hot.

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2014, 09:07:32 PM »
Anyone have experience with liners? I have a 40 degree synthetic bag I'm thinking about using for September / early Archery. It's nice and lightweight and synthetic is a must for me because I never want to risk a wet down bag. I was thinking of getting a liner to boost the temperature rating a bit. Any recommendations?

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2014, 09:12:34 PM »
No experience with liners but do have plenty of experience with canvas bedroll covers. The one I have gets me through even the coldest of nights in comfort.  Figure it adds anywhere from 15 to 20 degrees of added warmth.
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2014, 03:26:10 AM »
No experience with liners but do have plenty of experience with canvas bedroll covers. The one I have gets me through even the coldest of nights in comfort.  Figure it adds anywhere from 15 to 20 degrees of added warmth.

Wasn't even aware of that category. I'll take a look at that, thank you.

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2014, 05:01:00 AM »
North face snowshoe 0 degree for the cold or wet trips, and a mountain hard wear phantom 32 for early elk or summer.  Also got a 30% discount on the mountain  hard wear bag.  Wonder if I work with tbobs wife?   

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2014, 05:16:07 AM »
Maybe you work with his girlfriend though.
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2014, 05:58:47 AM »
I have a wiggly system , for summer trips I just use the outer liner bag

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2014, 05:22:13 PM »
Wanttohuntmore: the little lady works at Swedish in seattle.. Also I just asked the BIG question so I guess we're past the girlfriend stage now.. YIKES!!  And as for liners, I use a cabelas lightweight bivy over my down bag.. 2 problems solved! Won't get wet and adds xtra insulation for warmth if need be..

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2014, 08:45:04 PM »
Mountain Hardwear Ultralamina 15

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2014, 03:49:53 PM »
I'll throw another vote for the Marmot Helium for cold weather. My warm weather bag is a Exped Dreamwalker, you'll laugh when you see it, but it's best invention since sliced bread around camp

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2014, 11:32:05 AM »
I use a quilt early and then switch to a very old Marmot goretex down, circa 1996.  It's good to -20 in a bivy sack.

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2014, 02:06:05 PM »
I go with a Feathered Friends 20 degree bag.  Add a bag liner.  Early seasons if it's hot, I just sleep in the liner.  If it's late season and freezing temps, I sleep in a base layer and use the down booties (also Feathered Friends).

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2014, 06:29:48 PM »
I have nine sleeping bags.

Bottom line....get the long in what ever you do, its good for putting wet clothing in the bottom.

Sythetic for wet trips or multi day with unpredictable weather.

Down for anything dry or single day events.

Remember that bivy sacks don't breath, and you will get condensation.

Favorite companies......  MT hardwear and Mammut. 

You get what you pay for in bags, but people overstock them.  once again, end of summer for climbing shops is the death of the shop....so they are blowing out inventory. 

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2014, 07:20:28 PM »

I have nine sleeping bags.

Bottom line....get the long in what ever you do, its good for putting wet clothing in the bottom.

Sythetic for wet trips or multi day with unpredictable weather.

Down for anything dry or single day events.

Remember that bivy sacks don't breath, and you will get condensation.

Favorite companies......  MT hardwear and Mammut. 

You get what you pay for in bags, but people overstock them.  once again, end of summer for climbing shops is the death of the shop....so they are blowing out inventory.

I don't agree that you have to have synthetic for multi day trips. I've got about 50 nights in my marmot helium, had it in the tent in my bivy through rain storms and wet days. Never been an issue. And generally much lighter.

Hunting in winter I might understand a synthetic more.


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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2014, 07:27:35 PM »
Why do you try and turn all your posts into pp measuring contests?

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2014, 10:18:50 PM »
Why do you try and turn all your posts into pp measuring contests?
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Thought this was a forum?  Meant for discussions?  Wasn't doing any sort of measurement contest.

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2014, 11:19:25 PM »
I agree with silk. I primarily use down, in a floorless shelter sometimes too. Synthetic bags are less to worry about, but they are usually more bulky and heavy.
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2014, 11:23:09 PM »
I have nine sleeping bags.

Bottom line....get the long in what ever you do, its good for putting wet clothing in the bottom.

Sythetic for wet trips or multi day with unpredictable weather.

Down for anything dry or single day events.

Remember that bivy sacks don't breath, and you will get condensation.

Favorite companies......  MT hardwear and Mammut. 

You get what you pay for in bags, but people overstock them.  once again, end of summer for climbing shops is the death of the shop....so they are blowing out inventory. 

Spot on advice.
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2014, 07:33:43 AM »
Why do you try and turn all your posts into pp measuring contests?
i think it might come down to touting things as fact by the tone of their post when it is merely preference or opinion. henceforth a counter preference is listed, which may sound(read) like pp measuring...

for example, get a long bag. well, maybe, but i wont be. at 6' im more than happy in a standard length.
get synthetic for multi day trips. might not be a terrible idea, but ive been pleased with down in all seasons so far. granted i dont have any sleeping bag time on islands in alaska, where a synthetic would really shine

no different than when someone says make sure you get a tent with a floor.

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2014, 01:37:37 PM »
:boxin: Opening day can't come soon enough  :chuckle:

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2014, 03:38:30 PM »
:boxin: Opening day can't come soon enough  :chuckle:

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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2014, 06:59:47 PM »


I apologize for the "tone,"  I understand that it come across as abrupt.  I'm not a super hunter and have TONS of animals on the wall and am no means the gospel, however I have almost 20 years of testing equipment, designing and being asked to make suggestions, and no.... Im not a magazine writer that "thinks" he test gear.  I have been a athlete for these companies and parent holders.  I buy no means mean to come across as a jerk, and I apologize for thinking that everyone is 6'.  Equipment certainly is a preference....

Please don't confuse my advice with what I prefer....

Down certainly is more compactable and lighter you are correct. I LOVE DOWN!!!!  I would rather be in down any day of the week. It also becomes a worthless sack of feathers when it gets wet and doesn't dry out. Unfortunately weather models aren't always predictable. 

GENARLY SPEAKING>>>>  Unless each down feather is treated prior to stuffing, OR THE Outershell of the bag is a Water proofing system of some sort such as Gore-Tex or another synthetic membrane, wet feathers will loose there loft. Once this occurs, the bag needs to be aired out and dried.  There are companies out there that have rectified this situation......  for instance...  MT Hardwear has started actually treating the down prior to being blown/sewn into place.  They use a product they call Q shield elite. 

Here is a link for there water proof down....  http://www.mountainhardwear.com/innovation.html

Feathered friends makes Excellent gear, they are especially nice if you need a custom bag made and are much more reasonable than you would think.  Keep this in mind for true wilderness hunting as well, if your a "bigger" or "taller" person try looking at Feathered friends. They make excellent custom bags for a reasonable price.  Good sleep in the BC will help with the mental game of multi day trips. 

If I were to own one bag it would be down, with a bivy....  But I don't....I own several. 

Keep this in mind...  When you see all these climbers and back county skiers using down bags (I'm guilty as charged) .....the snow/ice is a relatively dry environment.  The idea that snow is a dry environment is counter intuitive I understand. As well as hunting out of maritime mountain ranges is a whole different story.  If I lived some where east of Ellensburg.... I wouldn't own anything buy down.  Unfortunately I live, hunt and test gear mountains that are subject to Maritime snowpack and weather patterns, so I own synthetics also.

Lets get back to you get what you pay for......  I would rather have a nice synthetic bag over a bottom of the line down bag.  Remember this is the in of climbing and summer mountaineering season......  If your going to buy an nice bag....  now is the time. 

Properly stored while not in use, down bags can last a lifetime. 

Good luck and I once again apologize for my "tone." Its difficult for me type my town of voice, this is why I don't text with my wife anymore.

Sincerly and respectfully
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2014, 12:05:41 PM »
I run with a Marmot Hydrogen 30 bag because of the Down Defender fill with an OR Alpine Bivy. At 1 lb 12 ounces and a 4 liter compression size for the long version, it's a perfect bag for backcountry hunts in September. Lightweight and compact. In my OR Alpine bivy, I leave the head unzipped about 12" and haven't had any noticeable condensation. But I got a treated down bag for that reason, if encountered.

For the compressed size and weight of a synthetic bag, they only get brought out during family car camping trips. Otherwise it's treated down 850+ fill in the woods.
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Re: sleeping bag
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2014, 08:44:43 PM »
I use an REI Flash that is a 30 degree bag. If I need to be warmer I use long underwear and/or my sleeping bag liner which adds 15 degrees to the my bag.  :tup:
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