Initiatives 594 and 591

[huntrights]

It is amazing that there is any debate at all in this forum regarding these initiatives.

I-594 is BAD; it is ANTI-GUN to its core.  I-594 attacks our rights and freedoms.  I-594 is being pushed and funded by rabid Anti-Gun organizations and individuals.  I-594 has been broadly written in such a way that it can turn any law-abiding gun-owner into an instant criminal.  For example, temporarily transfer/loan your gun to your over-18 family member or friend while target shooting on public land just to let them try it, you have violated the law.  There is NO valid debate regarding I-594; it is ANTI-GUN, and it will have dramatic negative effects on our rights and freedoms. Washington is a test market for this type extreme ANTI-GUN initiative.  If they can shove it down our throats here, they will continue to do it state-by-state.   

VOTE YES ON I-591 (Protect our Gun Rights)

VOTE NO on I-594 (The Anti-Gun Initiative)


ANTI-GUN billionaires are pitching in millions of dollars to fund I-594 and their ANTI-GUN agendas.  Don't let them buy this election.

I-591 needs our support.  It's time to put our money where our Second Amendment mouth is. 
Make a donation now to support I-591.
https://secure.piryx.com/donate/AOaM4TFe/Protect-Our-Gun-Rights-YES-on-I-591/

This is a cause so great that every person in this forum should be donating; our rights and freedoms are truly at risk.  Think about what you pay for a few gallons of gas, a few beers, or a few boxes of shells.  Come on folks!  Belly up to the I-591 donation bar and give a donation to fight for your rights and freedoms.  Encourage your family and friends to donate as well.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

It is amazing that there is any debate at all in this forum regarding these initiatives.

I-594 is BAD; it is ANTI-GUN to its core.  I-594 attacks our rights and freedoms.  I-594 is being pushed and funded by rabid Anti-Gun organizations and individuals.  I-594 has been broadly written in such a way that it can turn any law-abiding gun-owner into an instant criminal.  For example, temporarily transfer/loan your gun to your over-18 family member or friend while target shooting on public land just to let them try it, you have violated the law.  There is NO valid debate regarding I-594; it is ANTI-GUN, and it will have dramatic negative effects on our rights and freedoms. Washington is a test market for this type extreme ANTI-GUN initiative.  If they can shove it down our throats here, they will continue to do it state-by-state.   

VOTE YES ON I-591 (Protect our Gun Rights)

VOTE NO on I-594 (The Anti-Gun Initiative)


ANTI-GUN billionaires are pitching in millions of dollars to fund I-594 and their ANTI-GUN agendas.  Don't let them buy this election.

I-591 needs our support.  It's time to put our money where our Second Amendment mouth is. 
Make a donation now to support I-591.
https://secure.piryx.com/donate/AOaM4TFe/Protect-Our-Gun-Rights-YES-on-I-591/

This is a cause so great that every person in this forum should be donating; our rights and freedoms are truly at risk.  Think about what you pay for a few gallons of gas, a few beers, or a few boxes of shells.  Come on folks!  Belly up to the I-591 donation bar and give a donation to fight for your rights and freedoms.  Encourage your family and friends to donate as well.

Thanks for the clarification!

[splitshot]

good stuff here.  I had threads on 594 and 591 and should have done some research first.  thanks,    mike w

[huntnphool]

 

[blackdog]

No’ on Initiative 594

On this November’s ballot, Washington voters will be asked to approve or reject ballot measure Initiative 594, which calls for expanded background checks on most firearms transfers, including loans and gifts.

We are voting “No,” and we want to share our reasons with our constituents.

In 1997, voters were asked to approve a similar measure, Initiative 676, and rejected it by nearly a 71 percent to 29 percent margin. We view the intent of the current effort behind I-594 in much the same way that voters did 14 years ago.

I-594 is not designed to reduce gun violence, but was drafted to take advantage of recent tragedies where (in all but one case) the perpetrators passed one or more of the background checks offered as a solution to gun-related violence in I-594. In our opinion more of what is already not working is not a solution.

As state legislators familiar with how legislation is crafted, we believe that I-594 is poorly drafted and creates criminals out of innocent citizens while burdening our law enforcement community with unfunded mandates that will take police off our streets and do nothing to reduce the violence we all abhor. As evidence of this we note that the several thousand men and women represented by the Washington Council of Police and Sheriffs (WACOPS) oppose I-594 and we have yet to talk with a sheriff in the 19th District or the state who does not also oppose I-594.

Additionally, the Washington State Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors Association (WSLEFIA) is also opposed to I-594. Together with WACOPS, this represents significant law enforcement opposition to a measure that rank-and-file police and sheriffs deputies would be expected to implement and enforce.

We stand ready to work with those legislators and community members who desire actual solutions to the problem of violence in our communities. The vote this November is yours and we ask that you carefully read the 18 pages of I-594 and vote no.

State Sen. Brian Hatfield and Reps. Dean Takko and Brian Blake
I-594 is so bad even democratic legislators are opposing it!

[huntrights]

 
Thank you.

We all need to continue getting the truth out about this terrible initiative (I-594).

[Greenhorn]

Just called my County sheriff (Klickitat) and asked him to come out publicly against I-594.  Maybe others could do the same?

[pianoman9701]

Lucas in Clark Co. already has.

[pianoman9701]

Here's my response to a pro I-594 letter in the Seattle Times this AM. Feel free to use it whether or not you give me credit - I don't care as long as people get a chance to read it.
PMan

"I-594 isn't about online sales and gun show loophole, or the bill could have been written on one page. Instead, it's 18 pages which outline taking away the public's ability to legally obtain, or even hold a firearm. I-594 will do nothing to stop a single felon from procuring a gun. That's why it's opposed by almost every law enforcement official in the state. In addition, the creation of the additional paperwork alone will take police off the streets to desk positions to meet the demand of these checks. Are we safer with fewer police on the streets?
Do you realize that this bill would criminalize a widow for not going through the background check process within 60 days of her husband's death if he owned guns at the time of his death? Who's being protected by that? Do you realize that under this bill, if you hand an unloaded gun to another law-abiding citizen just to show it to them without performing a background check, you're guilty of a gross misdemeanor? If you hand it to two people, you're a felon. Are we trying to create more felons in this state or trying to be safer?
Instead of creating criminals, why don't we go after the real ones? We have a larger problem in this state and that is that we're not prosecuting the felons for attempting to buy firearms. Since 1996, over 40,000 felons have attempted to buy firearms in WA through the background check process. That in itself is a felony charge. Almost none of them have even been charged with that felony for doing so, let alone prosecuted. Why? These are dangerous criminals trying to buy guns and we don't even go after them. One more thing: one of the few law enforcement officials in this state who does back I-594 is King Co. Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterburg. Two years ago, when Leland Russell fired off a gun during a traffic altercation, Satterberg later reduced his charges, dropping the gun charges completely. As a result, Russell was able to legally purchase a firearm and murdered two citizens in Kent this past April. He went through a background check to purchase it. WE AREN'T PROSECUTING CRIMINALS NOW.
I-594 stinks. It seeks to make criminals out of good citizens and does nothing for our safety. If it had been a simple bill which said "All gun show and online gun purchases require background check", then even I would have supported it. But it doesn't do that. Use your brain and read this horrible piece of garbage here: http://sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/initiatives/FinalText_483.pdf This is a bad bill for our citizens."

[blackdog]

We all need to be asking where our Sheriffs and legislators stand on I-594!

[Special T]

Get responce Pman and i will be stealing it!

[huntrights]

We all need to be asking where our Sheriffs and legislators stand on I-594!

These are our rights and freedoms we are talking about here.  I-594 is BAD and we need our Sheriffs and legislators to take a stand against it or show their true colors if they are ANTI-GUN.  Even people that usually sit on the fence with these issues should be able to see I-594 is BAD if they are exposed to the truth.  Don't let a few ANTI-GUN billionaires buy an election by spewing their misleading propaganda via every type of media they can buy.

Take this very important action to protect your rights and freedoms by asking our elected Sheriffs and legislators to tell us and the public where they stand on I-594.  Be sure to tell them why I-594 is BAD when you write them so they fully understand just how ominous and onerous I-594 truly is.

Here are the links to take this important action that is very easy and will take very little time.

Washington State Sheriffs' Association (WSSA)
http://www.washeriffs.org/counties.htm

Washington State Legislature
Find Your Legislator
http://app.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/


Please encourage your family, friends, and colleagues to register to VOTE, and to:

VOTE YES ON I-591 (Protect our Gun Rights)

VOTE NO on I-594 (The Anti-Gun Initiative)

[rim_runner]

Here's my response to a pro I-594 letter in the Seattle Times this AM. Feel free to use it whether or not you give me credit - I don't care as long as people get a chance to read it.
PMan

good letter

[huntrights]

Please take a few minutes to view this very compelling video; then please forward this message to your family, friends and fellow firearm owners and make sure they
VOTE NO ON I-594!

ACTION ALERT from the NRA-ILA

"WASHINGTONIANS NEED TO KNOW WHY IT'S CRITICAL TO VOTE NO ON INITIATIVE 594

WATCH THE VIDEO BELOW. SHARE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. FORWARD IT TO YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY. VOTE NO ON INITIATIVE 594 ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT!

NRA.Org | Vote No on I-594
NRA.Org | Vote No on I-594

YOUR VOICE, YOUR VOTE, OUR FREEDOM — VOTE NO ON INITIATIVE 594

Attention Washington Second Amendment Supporter:

As you are aware, Initiative 594 (https://www.voteno594.com/) is the latest and most comprehensive and well-funded attempt to restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners in Washington State. Although proponents describe it as a “universal background check” measure, in reality, this 18 page initiative is a universal handgun registration (https://www.voteno594.com/initiative-594/) scheme being pushed by a very wealthy group of anti-gun elitists. That is not hyperbole, it is fact.

Under I-594, every time a handgun is transferred, the person receiving the handgun will have their name added to the government database being maintained by the state Department of Licensing. In other words, I-594 would create a government record of all lawfully transferred firearms in Washington, which would facilitate their future confiscation.

To ensure Second Amendment supporters in Washington are fully aware of the impact of I-594 and vote against it, NRA-ILA has deployed two Campaign Field Representatives (https://www.voteno594.com/take-action/#4) (CFRs--contact information below). Our CFRs need your help as they continue to recruit volunteers; attend events; distribute stickers, literature, door hangers, buttons, and yard signs; oversee phone banks; visit target households; and recruit supportive businesses to serve as Second Amendment Activist Centers (http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/second-amendment-centers/washington.aspx) and distribute our materials to their customers. All of these activities are being supplemented by our Election Volunteer Coordinators (https://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/forms/secure/evc.aspx?state=WA#evcContacts), who live in Washington State.

Our volunteer team needs your help on the ground! Contact your Washington CFR:

Keely Hopkins
Keely@NRAILAfrontlines.com
(541) 910-3395
Mill Creek, WA      
   
Adina Atwood
Adina@NRAILAfrontlines.com
(425) 351-4088
Lakewood, WA

For more information about what you can do to help, visit VoteNo594.com/TakeAction (https://www.voteno594.com/take-action/).

Please forward this email and our latest I-594 video to your family, friends and fellow firearm owners and make sure they VOTE NO ON I-594!"

[silverdalesauer]

I went to the Bremerton Gun Show on Saturday and picked up a couple "Yes! on 591" signs and put them in my yard. Then, yesterday the UPS man delivered about 10 signs to my house. I've got far too many. If anyone wants some free signage to post, please send me a PM and I'll get them to you.