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Offline rosscrazyelk

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stove Jack placement
« on: May 29, 2014, 12:23:17 PM »
Working on a little project. I am looking for your pros and cons of ceiling or sidewall placements of stove Jack placement.  Thanks
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2014, 12:27:27 PM »
definatly pros and cons, i went through the side wall, because none of the jacks are tight enough to keep the rain from coming in if its in the ceiling, i havent found any cons yet for it going through the wall yet, also if its through the ceiling its hard to get the snow flu over the roof, how does it keep from ending up on the stove pipe if its through the ceiling :dunno: good luck either way
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2014, 04:06:38 PM »
I have never cared for side stove pipe jacks.  Anytime the wind blows against the tent from that direction, the smoke comes inside along with the soot and sparks.  The stove pipe needs to be supported for many designs and it seemed like the designs we have used always involved messing with the bracing based on wind and the weight of the pipe at a 45 degree angel.  I have never had that propblem with a vertical stove pipe. 

The roof mounted stove jacks will leak on to the stove regardless of how tight they fit, but that has never been an issue for me.  It rained all day and I started a fire and it was the first thing to dry before the remainder of the tent. 

The roof mounted stove jacks seem to clear the smoke away from the tent the best in my opinion, but I am sure that everyone has had different experiences.  You might turn it into a poll to see if you end up with much different than 60/40 one way or the other.  I bet it would be a very indecisive poll splitting somewhere near 50/50



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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2014, 04:25:35 PM »
Mine is through the roof.  No problems.  Buddy has a sidewall jack, although it works fine, we are always screwing with it to keep it stable. 

 
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2014, 04:33:40 PM »
Thanks guys.  The stove we have now is a upright and even with a spark deflector we still get burn holes in the top.  My new tent I am working on I definitely do not want a hole in My roof from sparks.  But I agree the upright seems easiest.  Wonder if going out the side.  Then 45 and go up.  With a brace of course
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2014, 04:58:55 PM »
I prefer the thru wall jack. Makes for more room in the tent and as for bracing we just pound a 3/8 inch think 4ft long piece of rebar in the ground with a 6 1/2 ft section of 1/2" conduit wired to the stove pipe.
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2014, 05:07:13 PM »
Thanks guys.  The stove we have now is a upright and even with a spark deflector we still get burn holes in the top.  My new tent I am working on I definitely do not want a hole in My roof from sparks.  But I agree the upright seems easiest.  Wonder if going out the side.  Then 45 and go up.  With a brace of course

A couple suggestions
- Maybe go higher with stove pipe.
- Maybe Double wall canvas the area around the stove pipe, where the majority of burn holes are.  3x3 or 4 x 4.   I have black marks from soot, but no burn holes
- A lot of folks put tarps over there roof for foul weather, maybe that would help as well, so burn the tarp and not the tent?


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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2014, 05:19:59 PM »
My current tent has a roof jack but the next one will have a wall jack for this reason. with a wall jack you can use a poly tarp as a second cover on the roof for additional rain protection and the snow will slide easier on the tarp. with the roof jack you have to either have the tarps back from the stove pipe or cut a hole in the tarp to accommodate the stove pipe.  I've had my 14 X 17 for about 5 years and don't know where you are getting holes from but I don't have any  and use the stove probably more than most and NO I don't use a spark arrestor but I don't burn anything but wood in it
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2014, 09:34:22 PM »
I am not really putting this on a wall tent persay..
I was given a floorless shelter from a company and I have decided to make a multi use tent/shelter. It is enclosed but the sides are mesh and the rest is your typical nylon tent material. I am designing and making my own rainfly to fully protect the shelter from rain. I am making this my own type of wall tent. I will put it up tomorrow and get some pics so you have an idea of what I am talking about. It is only 10x10 and will work for what I have planned.. At least I hope.
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2014, 09:47:59 PM »
I go through the wall.  I like having the roof solid one piece of material with a liner so no leaks.  The con for a side exhaust is that you aren't utilizing all the heat from the stove.  The more pipe inside the tent/cabin/etc you have, the more heat you can get.  So far it hasn't been enough for me to really notice.

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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2014, 10:51:41 PM »
My wall tent is through the roof, and my hunting buddies setup is side wall.  Both options have a down side, but my opinion is that you will have less trouble through the roof. I have a large heavy gauge tarp that covers both the tent and cook shack , and until last late season it worked fine keeping the canvas from being burned. Buuuuut..... When the wind gets strong, and your tarp is showing its age bad things can happen. Like the tarp could rip and flip up and knock the stove pipe off above the canvas. Which will instantly fill the tent with smoke and burn a 30"x6" hole in your roof.   :bash:.  A couple sheet metal screws at each coupling goes a long ways.
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2014, 06:58:27 AM »
I am not really putting this on a wall tent persay..
I was given a floorless shelter from a company and I have decided to make a multi use tent/shelter. It is enclosed but the sides are mesh and the rest is your typical nylon tent material. I am designing and making my own rainfly to fully protect the shelter from rain. I am making this my own type of wall tent. I will put it up tomorrow and get some pics so you have an idea of what I am talking about. It is only 10x10 and will work for what I have planned.. At least I hope.
YEAH you think that now :chuckle: :chuckle: i bought a bravo wall tent brandnew custom ordered, 14x16 i have the bunkbed kit which saves a ton of room, i also have a quenn pillow top mattress that goes on cots for when the wife comes with, i have a shower that i custom built that drains outside the wall tent,, super awesome after a long cold wet miserable day on the wetside.. i have the yukon stove with the 5gal hotwater tank, i have a sweet collapsable pantry that holds all dishes and food, a t.v and xbox a full compliment of man movies, rambo, shooter, act of valor etc  :chuckle: and a 3x3 table and chairs. you run out of room pretty quick, but i also have an extension on the front where we cook and keep all the firewood, and if set up correctly, taking the pipe through the side walls has more advatages than disadvantages :tup:
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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2014, 07:27:19 AM »
My wall tent used to have the pipe out the roof but when we had some repairs done to it we moved it to out the wall. We were tired of drips from melting snow and holes in roof from sparks. We angle out the side wall and then go up and pretty high. We bring an extra tall t post or chunk of 1 1/2 pipe and a t post pounder and drive a post in the ground and wire the pipe to that and it works great. I have had both and prefer out the side myself.nwhunter

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Re: stove Jack placement
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2014, 08:58:59 AM »
I have been taught that when going through the roof stove jack your pipe needs to go above the peak for proper draft inside the stove, in which case your stove burns alot better.  With the extended stove pipe I have no issues with sparks falling on my tent.

Burn good wood! This is a must. 

Sure a little rain or moisture comes through the stove jack but never really been an issue. 

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